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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #45 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #46 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:18pm John Smith wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 1:05pm: Why vote for a liberal government because http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/a9/a951c35b52e44670721bc11b09efc2dd25fd209883faf7807... libs don't even hate asylum seekers: they just think they're a cut above!
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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #47 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:19pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

--> rates of change now is it

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*Sure....they're anti competitive as any subsidised job is. It wouldn't be there without the tax payer. Very damned difficult for a brainwashed collectivist to understand that I know.... (swaggy) *

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #48 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:20pm

The reason people vote Liberal is largely because they've been trained that the Liberals are the "Default, stable" Government of Australia and Labor is the "Challenger, Chaotic" Government. All political narrative in Australian media really boils down to this. Labor have to PROVE they deserve Government beyond a doubt, or people will just hand it to the Liberals for no other reason than "Its stable".

Its why Labor are flogged so much harder in the media than the Liberals. Lets be honest here, it was getting to the point when Gillard was in Government where elements of the mainstream media were calling for her assassination and overthrow, but what in **** did Gillard do what was so bad? 1 misquoted carbon tax "lie"? Wow, I remember entire political forums and meetings just being filled with idiots going "Why did you lie, Juliar? Why did you lie?" In fact, at one point I was actually going to meet Julia Gillard to debate Australian drug policy during the last rounds of widespread drug debate in the media, but literally I was drowned out by "Juliar, carbon tax lie" idiots that took up all the time and thus she wasn't able to discuss with me issues around our drug policy (which I had actually spent months talking to doctors, scientists and journalists about researching for).

So Julia Gillard, one of the single most successful Prime Ministers in our country had calls for her murder from politicians and media, while Abbott got lets be honest "Oh Abbott, hes kind of stupid, oh well". WHAT THE ****?!? Imagine if Gillard did 10% of the stupid of Abbott and co? She would be 6 ft under right now. Look at the media blackout on NBN, 50 billion+ down the drain and not a single ABC report on it for over 2 years, they didn't even allow NBN questions on QandA to Turnbull. Get that!? The largest infrastructure project and disaster in Australian history, and ABC didn't allow questions on NBN, in fact when criticized, ABC wrote in an official letter that "the debate is settled on MTM being the superior technology" I s*** you not, in an official ABC letter.

Everyone with a brain knows that Labor has far superior policy to Liberals (what policy do the Liberals have that isn't utter s*** really?) but because Shorten isn't a literal paragon of just holiness, there is no way Labor can win the election because of the absolutely insane standards they are held too.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #49 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:33pm Vote Liberal?.....eeeew!!! never, I have a conscience.
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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #50 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:36pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

And ? If Malcolm is true to his word he will run a full term , still a little early to be counting all your chickens , especially after your QLD prediction Wink

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #51 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:37pm

Hmmm.... I think what libs have in spades is faith. Faith that is a duplicate to Tony Abbott's. They don't question climate change science - they have faith that it is simply a conspiracy. They are happy to fly on planes built with science but don't take a leap of faith and jump off a cliff to see if God will carry them.

But enough of the shallow analysis. They believe in certain "liberal ideals" and cling on to it despite all evidence to the contrary that it is negative to majority of mankind (or in Australia).

Free markets? Hardly because libs protect the big end of businesses. FTAs are great examples.

Oh well. Can't do much. I have voted for libs, labs, greens, democrats and independents. I have always looked at each policy promoted as well as the data/evidence presented to me. So far I fail to see why I should vote for Lib next election.

What has the lib government done that is so great?
Asylum seekers stopped? Big deal. An impact that does very little for the great majority of Australia. Is the money spent a big percentage of economy? No.
Carbon tax? Well most economists I read up has pointed out it is more efficient than direct action.
NBN rollout? Sorry hardly any better and probably lot worse when it was under labor.
No cuts to XXX? Well there were cuts.
Too many to list. Probably Turnbull might make positive changes, but it better be fast.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #52 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:37pm List your priorities. Take the most important first and work through to the least. Vote accordingly, but if you vote Labor because you hate the Liberals, you are an idiot. And vice versa.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 137834 Gender:	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #53 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:39pm innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm: telling people that you f--cked their dead mother . More lies. I'd quit now, while you're behind, if I were you. Mods, take note.
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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #54 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm

oh dear wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:15pm:

Why did labor rubber stamp the libs polices on metadata, potential gaol for those who speak on the conditions in offshore gulags, the basics card.liberal voters don't question their partys bad policy, labor voters do. enjoy opposition labor you deserve it.

Labor deserve opposition for Liberal policies?

I agree, massive bullcrap they backed these things (then backflipped when realized it pissed off their entire membership) but Liberals hold these policies and much more and worse, at least Labor has good policy.

Vote The Greens really if you are a progressive. It tempers Labors march to the right.

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #55 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

telling people that you f--cked their dead mother .

More lies.

I'd quit now, while you're behind, if I were you.

Mods, take note.

Have you sobered up and become embarrassed?, what the hell is wrong with you?, you have two choices here, own up to your actions and make amends or just make out like it never happened, but that may not work, do you really think that the mods here aren't aware of your sick postings?

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #56 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:50pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:39pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:10pm:

telling people that you f--cked their dead mother .

More lies.

I'd quit now, while you're behind, if I were you.

Mods, take note.

Have you sobered up and become embarrassed?, what the hell is wrong with you?, you have two choices here, own up to your actions and make amends or just make out like it never happened, but that may not work, do you really think that the mods here aren't aware of your sick postings?

You need to read my posts again.

Telling lies isn't winning you any friends.

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #57 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:54pm

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

I don't vote numpty.

Are you under 18, you are not in prison serving a sentence of three years or more if you were you wouldn't have any internet.

So are you of unsound mind (incapable of understanding the nature and significance of voting);

you have you been convicted of treason or treachery and have not been pardoned.

As you don't vote you have no say in what the government does or doesn't do. So which one are you or should we treat you as a nobody because you haven't got the guts to say that you voted for a political party and they got everything wrong when they are governing for all Australians.

Now be a man and tell us why you don't vote yet you are a member of a political forum, or will you go and hide under a rock now.

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Opinions are like arseholes everyone got one.

It doesn't mean that your opinion or my opinion is right

See my post in the welcome thread reply #575 and you will know what I am like

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #58 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:56pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

I don't vote numpty.

Are you under 18, you are not in prison serving a sentence of three years or more if you were you wouldn't have any internet.

So are you of unsound mind (incapable of understanding the nature and significance of voting);

That's the one.

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #59 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:58pm

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:54pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:

I don't vote numpty.

Are you under 18, you are not in prison serving a sentence of three years or more if you were you wouldn't have any internet.

So are you of unsound mind (incapable of understanding the nature and significance of voting);

you have you been convicted of treason or treachery and have not been pardoned.

As you don't vote you have no say in what the government does or doesn't do. So which one are you or should we treat you as a nobody because you haven't got the guts to say that you voted for a political party and they got everything wrong when they are governing for all Australians.

Now be a man and tell us why you don't vote yet you are a member of a political forum, or will you go and hide under a rock now.

I'm telling you nothing. I don't believe in the make up of our political system. I like the Liberals more than the Labor Party though. The Labor Party are a bunch of retards. They are a joke. Everything they touch turns into a mess. I'd like to see them fold up and be replaced by something else.

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