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Reply #75 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

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Reply #76 - Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:57pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

And they continue to support him.

It's a worry.

The guy isn't fit to hold any sort of office, let alone that of PM.

He's unemployable.

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Reply #77 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 12:37am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:57pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

And they continue to support him.

It's a worry.

The guy isn't fit to hold any sort of office, let alone that of PM.

He's unemployable.

Really makes you wonder, doesn't it? Trouble is he's not the only one on either side. Getting a gig through the old mate's network doesn't by any stretch of the imagination give us the politicians we deserve, only the politicians they want, who then employ their mates in lucrative jobs at our expense.

Private schools have a lot to answer for....... so does Sydney University which is increasingly looking like a dinosaur out its depth and reliant on the old mate's network as well.

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #78 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:45am It's a wonder that you're so critical of Abbott, Pecker. He's a better man than you in every respect. Plus, I'd be fully confident if the situation arose he could kick your teeth in.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74862 Gender:	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #79 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:49am so 6 pages and still no one has given a good reason to vote liberal? I'm not surprised
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Reply #80 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:58am

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/03/scott-morrison-encourages-states-to-let-private-sector-run-schools-and-hospitals

Also Morrison is flagging the full privatization of hospitals and schools.

I mean, jesus christ, Abbott wouldn't touch these policies with a 10000ft pole and Turncoat does it and gets a 7 point rise!? Are Australian braindead or what? Talk about leading sheep to the slaughter.

There have been a couple of test schools where the school was run as if it were a private school. The principal had total control over the budget and could 'hire and fire' teachers and other staff at will. The outcomes were very good. it is in fact, similar to the Finnish model of schools which is world-renowned.

Naturally a collectivist like you is appalled at the notion of individuality or private... anything!

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Reply #81 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:02am

Labor voter wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 9:30pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:16pm:

Its time wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 5:07pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 4:41pm:

Seems some people missed the Morgan POll results

56.5/43.5

How do you all feel now knowing that as it gets worse, Labor are going to lose more and more seats and sentors.

Plenty of time to see what Turncoat stands for between now and election .

Plenty of time?? 6 weeks ago it was 46/54 and now it is close to 57/43

At the current rate, it will be 60/40 before Christmas.

Do a bit of research Maria before you post and poll result.

Morgan is usually right. The last one, showing the Coalition on 56.5, though, is peculiar.

It has Labor on 59 percent among 18-24 year olds, and 56.5 percent among 25-34 year olds. These seem to me about right.

Yet it has the Coalition on 58.5 among 35-49 year olds, 60.5 percent among 50-64 year olds, and 65 percent among the over 65s.

Labor was ahead in every age group eight weeks ago. It seems odd that the 35-49 year olds should be such a contrast with the way they were. If, for instance, the sampling was wrong and the 35-49 year olds are 50-50, the whole thing would be more like 50-50, which I think is where it probably is.

There are (sigh) 711,660 18-24 year olds voting or preferring Labor; and of the 25-34 year olds 1,098,000 voting or preferring Labor. If, then, half the 35-50 year olds, that is 1,458,332 were too, the total thus far, 3,267,229, augurs something more like a 50-50 result.

The by-election in Canning, in Turnbull’s first week, showed a swing away from the Liberals of 9 percent. South West Coast a swing of 16 percent away from them. Polwarth a swing of 6 percent.

Something is wrong here. Swings to Labor in reality, and away from Labor in theory.

There are some problems with your analysis. It is possible that this particular poll is an outlier, but it is also possible that it is a early warning indicator. Either way, Labor is still getting flogged.

The Canning byelection was not what you think. By-elections typically have swings of 3-4% against the incumbent government by virtue of being a by-election and are not reflected in a general election. It was also replacing a well-known and well respected long-term deceased member. That normally costs the new member 5-6% initially. Add them together and there is no real swing to Labor at all or even... a swing to the Libs.

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #82 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And yet he got to be PM for 2 years while you have achieved virtually nothing. If that is 'failure' most people would be happy to fail!

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #83 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:05am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:58am:

Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/03/scott-morrison-encourages-states-to-let-private-sector-run-schools-and-hospitals

Also Morrison is flagging the full privatization of hospitals and schools.

I mean, jesus christ, Abbott wouldn't touch these policies with a 10000ft pole and Turncoat does it and gets a 7 point rise!? Are Australian braindead or what? Talk about leading sheep to the slaughter.

There have been a couple of test schools where the school was run as if it were a private school. The principal had total control over the budget and could 'hire and fire' teachers and other staff at will. The outcomes were very good. it is in fact, similar to the Finnish model of schools which is world-renowned.

Naturally a collectivist like you is appalled at the notion of individuality or private... anything!

Perhaps the poster could supply a link to these couple of schools.

Oh hang on it's Maria. She doesn't back up her opinions with facts.

As you were.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #84 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:07am John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:49am: so 6 pages and still no one has given a good reason to vote liberal? I'm not surprised Wont happen overnight but it will happen
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74862 Gender:	Re: Why vote for a liberal government Reply #85 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:08am Its time wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:07am: John Smith wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 7:49am: so 6 pages and still no one has given a good reason to vote liberal? I'm not surprised Wont happen overnight but it will happen I doubt it
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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #86 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:10am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:04am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And yet he got to be PM for 2 years

Yes.

Quite an astounding outcome, considering his complete lack of skills for the job.

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #87 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:31am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

They would support a turd if it was endorsed by the Liberal party.

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #88 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:35am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

That is a poor reason to vote for any political party. You're better off evaluating the parties' and candidates' policies and choosing candidates from parties that are most closely aligned to your own interests.

Too few people do this. That is why we have the Liberals in office.

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Re: Why vote for a liberal government
Reply #89 - Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:37am

Bam wrote on Nov 5^th, 2015 at 8:31am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 11:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 4^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

The liberal party finally gave the people what they wanted, the removal of the idiot. And the result is a reward in the polls. It will narrow, but to be honest even I'm inclined to vote liberal next election, if not to make it absolutely clear that removing tony was the greatest reform liberal party has done in 20 years.

It's still difficult to believe that such a mentally defective individual made it to the office of PM.

And to think that people actually supported him. What does it say about them???

They would support a turd

if it was endorsed by the Liberal party.

And have...

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