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Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:50pm
 
Nobel prize winner for physics in 1973 Dr. Ivar Giaever resigned as a Fellow from the American Physical Society (APS) on September 13, 2011 in disgust over the group’s promotion of man-made global warming fears. Climate Depot has obtained the exclusive email Giaever sent to APS Executive Officer Kate Kirby to announce his formal resignation.

Dr. Giaever wrote to Kirby of APS: “Thank you for your letter inquiring about my membership. I did not renew it because I cannot live with the (APS) statement below (on global warming): APS: ‘The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.’

Giaever announced his resignation from APS was due to the group’s belief in man-made global warming fears. Giaever explained in his email to APS: “In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this ‘warming’ period.”

Here is the actual letter...

Dear Ms. Kirby

Thank you for your letter inquiring about my membership. I did not renew it because I can not live with the statement below:

Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth’s climate. Greenhouse gases include carbon dioxide as well as methane, nitrous oxide and other gases. They are emitted from fossil fuel combustion and a range of industrial and agricultural processes.
The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring.
If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.

In the APS it is ok to discuss whether the mass of the proton changes over time and how a multi-universe behaves, but the evidence of global warming is incontrovertible? The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this ‘warming’ period.

Best regards,

Ivar Giaever

Nobel Laureate 1973


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Reply #1 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:56pm
 
ah at last someone with Integrity and Conscience...

right or wrong.. he resigned from all the crappola...

you can fool some of the people some of the time  but!!!!..

and to claim there is one source and one source only for changing anything on this planet... is a kind of madness in itself..
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Reply #2 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:57pm
 
Since we are on a Nobel Prize theme...


“Please remain calm: The Earth will heal itself — Climate is beyond our power to control…Earth doesn’t care about governments or their legislation. You can’t find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. Climate change is a matter of geologic time, something that the earth routinely does on its own without asking anyone’s permission or explaining itself.” — Nobel Prize-Winning Stanford University Physicist Dr. Robert B. Laughlin, who won the Nobel Prize for physics in 1998, and was formerly a research scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.


And now from home....

“Global warming is the central tenet of this new belief system in much the same way that the Resurrection is the central tenet of Christianity. Al Gore has taken a role corresponding to that of St Paul in proselytizing the new faith…My skepticism about AGW arises from the fact that as a physicist who has worked in closely related areas, I know how poor the underlying science is. In effect the scientific method has been abandoned in this field.” — Atmospheric Physicist Dr. John Reid, who worked with Australia’s CSIRO’s (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization) Division of Oceanography and worked in surface gravity waves (ocean waves) research.


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Reply #3 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:01pm
 
On May 1, 2009, the American Physical Society (APS) Council decided to review its current climate statement via a high-level subcommittee of respected senior scientists. The decision was prompted after a group of over 80 prominent physicists petitioned the APS revise its global warming position and more than 250 scientists urged a change in the group’s climate statement in 2010. The physicists wrote to APS governing board: “Measured or reconstructed temperature records indicate that 20th – 21st century changes are neither exceptional nor persistent, and the historical and geological records show many periods warmer than today.” An American Physical Society editor conceded that a “considerable presence” of scientific skeptics exists.


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2010 saw the once vaunted UN IPCC now become the object of ridicule and scrutiny. In June 2010, Climate Scientist Mike Hulme took apart a key claim. Hulme noted that claims such as “2,500 of the world’s leading scientists have reached a consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on the climate” are disingenuous. Hulme noted that the key scientific case for Co2 driving global warming was reached by a very small gaggle of people. “That particular consensus judgment, as are many others in the IPCC reports, is reached by only a few dozen experts in the specific field of detection and attribution studies; other IPCC authors are experts in other fields.”




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Reply #4 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:05pm
 
What if it is one big hoax , and we make the world a better place to live . For nothing.

Clean air is overated anyway  Cheesy
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Reply #5 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:12pm
 
Its time wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
What if it is one big hoax , and we make the world a better place to live . For nothing.

Clean air is overated anyway  Cheesy



CO2 isn't 'dirty'.  That's kinda the point.

What if it is one big hoax and we spend trillions of dollars trying (and failing) to fix a non-existent problem while billions die of starvation?

Starvation is over-rated anyway.
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Its time wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
Clean air is overated anyway



No, Not over-rated. The atmosphere has been cleaned up a lot since the late 70's. Think smoggy London etc. Global Brightening has been attributed in part to rising temperatures.
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Reply #7 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:19pm
 
the science is real.. honest..  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:29pm
 
Is he a climate scientist? No. Next.
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Reply #9 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:37pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:15pm:
Its time wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:05pm:
Clean air is overated anyway



No, Not over-rated. The atmosphere has been cleaned up a lot since the late 70's. Think smoggy London etc. Global Brightening has been attributed in part to rising temperatures.

It's more weightless gas you snapstick  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


It's more weightless gas you snapstick  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


It's more weightless gas you snapstick  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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Reply #10 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:38pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Is he a climate scientist? No. Next.



There's this witch doctor that lives in the Amazonian rainforest, he said global warming is a hoax.

So there!!!!
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cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 4:56pm:
ah at last someone with Integrity and Conscience...

right or wrong.. he resigned from all the crappola...

you can fool some of the people some of the time  but!!!!..

and to claim there is one source and one source only for changing anything on this planet... is a kind of madness in itself..

HAVEN'T YOU GOT METHO TO DRINK?  Huh Huh
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Reply #12 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:39pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:38pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Is he a climate scientist? No. Next.



There's this witch doctor that lives in the Amazonian rainforest, he said global warming is a hoax.

So there!!!!

THE VINE TOLD HIM  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #13 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:48pm
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Is he a climate scientist? No. Next.



'Dr. Michael E. Mann received his undergraduate degrees in Physics and Applied Math from the University of California at Berkeley, an M.S. degree in Physics from Yale University, and a Ph.D. in Geology & Geophysics from Yale University.'

http://www.met.psu.edu/people/mem45

Not a climate scientist.

Edit:

'Dr. Kevin E. Trenberth is a Distinguished Senior Scientist in the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. From New Zealand, he obtained his Sc. D. in meteorology in 1972 from Massachusetts Institute of Technology.'

http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/staff/trenbert/

Also not a climate scientist.
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Reply #14 - Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:50pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:48pm:
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 4th, 2015 at 5:29pm:
Is he a climate scientist? No. Next.



'Dr. Michael E. Mann received his undergraduate degrees in Physics and Applied Math from the University of California at Berkeley, an M.S. degree in Physics from Yale University, and a Ph.D. in Geology & Geophysics from Yale University.'

http://www.met.psu.edu/people/mem45

Not a climate scientist.

what are your credentials buddy ?
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