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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #15 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:08am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:03am:
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Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Three points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air - it doesn't float up like methane does.

2. By FAR the greatest source of Carbon Dioxide are the oceans.

3. Carbon Dioxide is an essential plant food.


The reason behind the fabricated 'Climate Change' hoax is that it should act as a ploy to re-distribute trillions of dollars from the Filthy Rich Capitalist West to the Third World Victimhood 'Developing Nations' by way of helping them finance their own carbon emissions reduction schemes ... with only a tiny percentage of the gifted money actually going towards that purpose.

It's just another scheme to suck more Foreign Aid (ie charity dollars) out of the industrialised wickedly Capitalist West.



4. There has been no proven correlation between carbon dioxide and rising temperature levels. Might as well blame cows farting.



97% of climate scientists disagree.

So what's your qualification ... your a daily telegraph reader?


Yep, 75 out of 77 of those acceptable to the people running the survey agree...shame about the 3000+ respondents that didn't.



Climate scientists?

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Reply #16 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:11am
 
Anthropological global warming accounts for a fraction of natural-causes global warming.

Active volcanoes spew more Global Warming 'material' into the atmosphere each day than human emissions in a century.
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Reply #17 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:15am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:11am:
Active volcanoes spew more Global Warming 'material' into the atmosphere each day than human emissions in a century.

Nope, sorry. We do.
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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #18 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:16am
 
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:08am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:03am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Three points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air - it doesn't float up like methane does.

2. By FAR the greatest source of Carbon Dioxide are the oceans.

3. Carbon Dioxide is an essential plant food.


The reason behind the fabricated 'Climate Change' hoax is that it should act as a ploy to re-distribute trillions of dollars from the Filthy Rich Capitalist West to the Third World Victimhood 'Developing Nations' by way of helping them finance their own carbon emissions reduction schemes ... with only a tiny percentage of the gifted money actually going towards that purpose.

It's just another scheme to suck more Foreign Aid (ie charity dollars) out of the industrialised wickedly Capitalist West.



4. There has been no proven correlation between carbon dioxide and rising temperature levels. Might as well blame cows farting.



97% of climate scientists disagree.

So what's your qualification ... your a daily telegraph reader?


Yep, 75 out of 77 of those acceptable to the people running the survey agree...shame about the 3000+ respondents that didn't.



Climate scientists?



Yes, 10,000 surveys sent to climate and earth scientists, 3146 surveys returns, but the "97%" claim is based on 75 out of 77 climate scientists..
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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #19 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:20am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:16am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:08am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:03am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Three points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air - it doesn't float up like methane does.

2. By FAR the greatest source of Carbon Dioxide are the oceans.

3. Carbon Dioxide is an essential plant food.


The reason behind the fabricated 'Climate Change' hoax is that it should act as a ploy to re-distribute trillions of dollars from the Filthy Rich Capitalist West to the Third World Victimhood 'Developing Nations' by way of helping them finance their own carbon emissions reduction schemes ... with only a tiny percentage of the gifted money actually going towards that purpose.

It's just another scheme to suck more Foreign Aid (ie charity dollars) out of the industrialised wickedly Capitalist West.



4. There has been no proven correlation between carbon dioxide and rising temperature levels. Might as well blame cows farting.



97% of climate scientists disagree.

So what's your qualification ... your a daily telegraph reader?


Yep, 75 out of 77 of those acceptable to the people running the survey agree...shame about the 3000+ respondents that didn't.



Climate scientists?



Yes, 10,000 surveys sent to climate and earth scientists, 3146 surveys returns, but the "97%" claim is based on 75 out of 77 climate scientists..

A self selecting sample! Totally worthless!
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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #20 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:27am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:20am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:16am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:08am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:03am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Three points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air - it doesn't float up like methane does.

2. By FAR the greatest source of Carbon Dioxide are the oceans.

3. Carbon Dioxide is an essential plant food.


The reason behind the fabricated 'Climate Change' hoax is that it should act as a ploy to re-distribute trillions of dollars from the Filthy Rich Capitalist West to the Third World Victimhood 'Developing Nations' by way of helping them finance their own carbon emissions reduction schemes ... with only a tiny percentage of the gifted money actually going towards that purpose.

It's just another scheme to suck more Foreign Aid (ie charity dollars) out of the industrialised wickedly Capitalist West.



4. There has been no proven correlation between carbon dioxide and rising temperature levels. Might as well blame cows farting.



97% of climate scientists disagree.

So what's your qualification ... your a daily telegraph reader?


Yep, 75 out of 77 of those acceptable to the people running the survey agree...shame about the 3000+ respondents that didn't.



Climate scientists?



Yes, 10,000 surveys sent to climate and earth scientists, 3146 surveys returns, but the "97%" claim is based on 75 out of 77 climate scientists..

A self selecting sample! Totally worthless!



Exactly.
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Reply #21 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:34am
 
FAR more threatening to the future health of Western nations than some trumped-up 'Climate Change' hysteria are the mob that you 'Green' - and 'Jovial Monk' belong to.

These are the people who for years have been supporting the immigration groundwork for the eventual decline and death of the West's Judaeo-Christian civilisation.

These are the Reds-under-the-bed who have been trying every which way to hobble the West - with Muslim immigration being just one of their strategies for fracturing and disharmonising Western societies of their social cohesion and identity.

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No wonder these were the first people that Hitler winkled out of the woodwork long before he turned his attention to the Jews.

White ants. Traitors. One Worlders.

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Reply #22 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:40am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:34am:
FAR more threatening to the future health of Western nations than some trumped-up 'Climate Change' hysteria are the mob that you 'Green' - and 'Jovial Monk' belong to.

These are the people who for years have been supporting the immigration groundwork for the eventual decline and death of the West's Judaeo-Christian civilisation.

These are the Reds-under-the-bed who have been trying every which way to hobble the West - with Muslim immigration being just one of their strategies for fracturing and disharmonising Western societies of their social cohesion and identity.

link

No wonder these were the first people that Hitler winkled out of the woodwork long before he turned his attention to the Jews.

White ants. Traitors. One Worlders.


You do go on, don’t you Herbie, go on spouting your racism and xenophobia.
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Reply #23 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:43am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:11am:
Anthropological global warming accounts for a fraction of natural-causes global warming.

Active volcanoes spew more Global Warming 'material' into the atmosphere each day than human emissions in a century.



Your opinion is based on what?
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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #24 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:44am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:16am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:08am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:03am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Three points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air - it doesn't float up like methane does.

2. By FAR the greatest source of Carbon Dioxide are the oceans.

3. Carbon Dioxide is an essential plant food.


The reason behind the fabricated 'Climate Change' hoax is that it should act as a ploy to re-distribute trillions of dollars from the Filthy Rich Capitalist West to the Third World Victimhood 'Developing Nations' by way of helping them finance their own carbon emissions reduction schemes ... with only a tiny percentage of the gifted money actually going towards that purpose.

It's just another scheme to suck more Foreign Aid (ie charity dollars) out of the industrialised wickedly Capitalist West.



4. There has been no proven correlation between carbon dioxide and rising temperature levels. Might as well blame cows farting.



97% of climate scientists disagree.

So what's your qualification ... your a daily telegraph reader?


Yep, 75 out of 77 of those acceptable to the people running the survey agree...shame about the 3000+ respondents that didn't.



Climate scientists?



Yes, 10,000 surveys sent to climate and earth scientists, 3146 surveys returns, but the "97%" claim is based on 75 out of 77 climate scientists..



So the figure is likely higher.

99%?
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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #25 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:55am
 
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:44am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:16am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:08am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:03am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Three points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air - it doesn't float up like methane does.

2. By FAR the greatest source of Carbon Dioxide are the oceans.

3. Carbon Dioxide is an essential plant food.


The reason behind the fabricated 'Climate Change' hoax is that it should act as a ploy to re-distribute trillions of dollars from the Filthy Rich Capitalist West to the Third World Victimhood 'Developing Nations' by way of helping them finance their own carbon emissions reduction schemes ... with only a tiny percentage of the gifted money actually going towards that purpose.

It's just another scheme to suck more Foreign Aid (ie charity dollars) out of the industrialised wickedly Capitalist West.



4. There has been no proven correlation between carbon dioxide and rising temperature levels. Might as well blame cows farting.



97% of climate scientists disagree.

So what's your qualification ... your a daily telegraph reader?


Yep, 75 out of 77 of those acceptable to the people running the survey agree...shame about the 3000+ respondents that didn't.



Climate scientists?



Yes, 10,000 surveys sent to climate and earth scientists, 3146 surveys returns, but the "97%" claim is based on 75 out of 77 climate scientists..



So the figure is likely higher.

99%?


Nope, a lot lower, closer to 3%.
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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #26 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:21am
 
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How Margaret Thatcher led the way on climate change

Nearly two decades before Al Gore raised awareness of climate change, Margaret Thatcher was calling for an international scientific body to investigate the issue.

Back in 1988, however, it was a different politician who put the science of climate change firmly on the global agenda. Unbeknownst to many, that person was Margaret Thatcher.

As a Fellow of the Royal Society, Britain's national science academy, she presented a series of high profile speeches on the topic of climate change. Armed with a degree in chemistry from Oxford, her scientific expertise enabled her to speak from a position of strength and knowledge about climate-related issues.

She used that knowledge to act as a champion for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and personally opened the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research (the UK's foremost climate change research centre).

What many people admired about Margaret Thatcher was her ability to embrace the potential of science to guide and lead the way on environmental issues. What marked her out even more is that she embraced the 'precautionary principle' years before other politicians did. As she once said:

"...the danger of global warming is as yet unseen but real enough for us to make changes and sacrifices, so that we do not live at the expense of future generations."
On November 8th 1989, she addressed the General Assembly of the United Nations about the need for nations to join together in tackling climate change.

It was a groundbreaking speech where she eloquently set out the case for international action and argued for an ongoing role for the IPCC. Indeed, some would argue that the IPCC owes its existence to the support that Thatcher gave it at that time.

Her political understanding of the issue also led to her call for a global response that would bring about real change:

"It is no good squabbling over who is responsible or who should pay. Whole areas of our planet could be subject to drought and starvation if the pattern of rains and monsoons were to change as a result of the destruction of forests and the accumulation of greenhouse gases. The environmental challenge which confronts the whole world demands an equivalent response from the whole world. Every country will be affected and no one can opt out."


http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2013/04/09/3732680.htm


WHICH just goes to show that the GW movement was always politically motivated into fooling the sheeple to pay more tax...

Maggie said to her scientists - "if you can prove Man Made Global warming, i'll shower you in Millions of Dollars"

and thus - The scientist the Scientist became Believers and started the Great GW lie...  Angry
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Re: survey shows Aussies are waking up to Global Warmi
Reply #27 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:36am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:55am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:44am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:16am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:08am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 7:03am:
____ wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:57am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:40am:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 6:35am:
Three points:

1. Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air - it doesn't float up like methane does.

2. By FAR the greatest source of Carbon Dioxide are the oceans.

3. Carbon Dioxide is an essential plant food.


The reason behind the fabricated 'Climate Change' hoax is that it should act as a ploy to re-distribute trillions of dollars from the Filthy Rich Capitalist West to the Third World Victimhood 'Developing Nations' by way of helping them finance their own carbon emissions reduction schemes ... with only a tiny percentage of the gifted money actually going towards that purpose.

It's just another scheme to suck more Foreign Aid (ie charity dollars) out of the industrialised wickedly Capitalist West.



4. There has been no proven correlation between carbon dioxide and rising temperature levels. Might as well blame cows farting.



97% of climate scientists disagree.

So what's your qualification ... your a daily telegraph reader?


Yep, 75 out of 77 of those acceptable to the people running the survey agree...shame about the 3000+ respondents that didn't.



Climate scientists?



Yes, 10,000 surveys sent to climate and earth scientists, 3146 surveys returns, but the "97%" claim is based on 75 out of 77 climate scientists..



So the figure is likely higher.

99%?


Nope, a lot lower, closer to 3%.



Oh well, in the real world it's 97%.
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Reply #28 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:45am
 
Greens...

why don't you quote Maggie Thatcher when she saw that her early work was taken over by liars and scare mongers ???
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Reply #29 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:48am
 
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In 2003, towards the end of her last book, Statecraft, in a passage headed "Hot Air and Global Warming", she issued what amounts to an almost complete recantation of her earlier views.

She voiced precisely the fundamental doubts about the warming scare that have since become familiar to us. Pouring scorn on the "doomsters", she questioned the main scientific assumptions used to drive the scare, from the conviction that the chief force shaping world climate is CO2, rather than natural factors such as solar activity, to exaggerated claims about rising sea levels. She mocked Al Gore and the futility of "costly and economically damaging" schemes to reduce CO2 emissions. She cited the 2.5C rise in temperatures during the Medieval Warm Period as having had almost entirely beneficial effects. She pointed out that the dangers of a world getting colder are far worse than those of a CO2-enriched world growing warmer. She recognised how distortions of the science had been used to mask an anti-capitalist, Left-wing political agenda which posed a serious threat to the progress and prosperity of mankind.

In other words, long before it became fashionable, Lady Thatcher was converted to the view of those who, on both scientific and political grounds, are profoundly sceptical of the climate change ideology. Alas, what she set in train earlier continues to exercise its baleful influence to this day. But the fact that she became one of the first and most prominent of "climate sceptics" has been almost entirely buried from view.
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