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Reply #90 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:25pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 11:02am:
He Man wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:54am:
It takes a Russian to show the US how to bomb enemies for crying out loud.


Correct.

Let's hope Putin commits to ground forces that won't 'cherry-pick' while walking on egg-shells like the US army had to do in Iraq and Afghanistan - needlessly costing thousands of young American lives.

Stormin' Norman hated those political bastards back at home more than he hated Saddam's Pretorian Guards.


The US lost its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Herbie. It did so precisely because it didn’t walk on eggshells.

The photos of Abu Graib and the helicopter shooting of a journalist, a child, and the passers-by who went in to help, saw the US lose any semblance of credibility in Iraq. All the US did in Iraq was to get a corrupt Shia government elected and inspire the Sunni counter-force of ISIS. And it saw the end of US hegemony in the region, as Putin’s presence in Syria now proves.

All it did in Afghanistan was prop up a corrupt president and hold back the inevitable rise of the Taliban.

Putin is in Syria to protect Russian gas and snub his nose at the West. He’s defending a totalitarian regime who’s days are numbered. Putin is not in Syria to defeat ISIS.

As every schoolboy knows.
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Reply #91 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:02pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
The US lost its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Herbie. It did so precisely because it didn’t walk on eggshells.


Nonsense.

The enemy hid among the civilians with the result that the US soldiers had to go door-to-door sifting out the wheat from the chaff at great risk to themselves from snipers, remote-controlled bombs, and booby-traps ... instead of targetting known insurgent neighbourhoods with saturation bombing or cannon-fire as is normal in combat situations.

Easily half the American ground troops who died were lost to this politically correct version of warfare.

They had to tippy-toe around so as not to upset the luvvies at home, and the West's majority Leftwing press, and a US election was looming.

Do your reading.

Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
The photos of Abu Graib and the helicopter shooting of a journalist, a child, and the passers-by who went in to help ...


... were a bonanza for the West's traitorous Leftwing media which did everything it could to propagandise against the Coalition of the Willing.

The media went on and on and on about the 'panties on the head' soap opera - but didn't once think to mention that prior to the US invasion, Abo Grab was a series of horror chambers in which every kind of torture and  sadistic brutality had been carried out for years under Saddam Hussein.

Not a word ... and yet weeks of indoctrinating the viewing audiences at home as to what a monster the US must be for humiliating a few suspected Iraqi henchmen of Saddam Hussein with 'panties-on-the-head', and a dog-leash incident.

The whole idea of Abo Grab was to reduce the self-esteem and confidence of these suspects so that they would talk and give away vital information.

That's part of the tools of war. 

Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
All it did in Afghanistan was prop up a corrupt president and hold back the inevitable rise of the Taliban.


Correct.

Australians have been on the ground in Afghanistan for a staggering 13 years now ... with the Taliban just as strong as ever, hiding in the hills that border Pakistan.

Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 12:25pm:
Putin is in Syria to protect Russian gas and snub his nose at the West. He’s defending a totalitarian regime who’s days are numbered. Putin is not in Syria to defeat ISIS.


What better reason is there for Putin to be in Syria than to protect Russia's gas interests?

And we all owe him a debt of thanks for going into Syria to help keep the dictatorship safe and viable for the future. Stability in the region depends upon Police State dictatorships - not democracy.

The Arab/Islamic mentality cannot deal with the concept and practice of democracy, and this is because this incurs the loss-of-face and humiliation that comes with losing national elections.




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Reply #92 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:22pm
 
Herbie, targeting civilian populations with saturation bombing and mortar fire is otherwise known as a war crime. If it wasn’t for the US on the Security Council, Israel would be tried in the Hague for doing just what you suggest in Lebanon. Saddam was hung for doing the same with the Kurds, as were many Nazis and Japs after WWII.

The Assad regime is not a source of stability in its region. It’s the source of a civil war that’s sending millions of refugees into the Middle East and Europe. The regime is universally despised by its subjects, who it’s murdered 200,000 of already. If the Assad regime is supported, it will be deposed eventually. It will go before long.

All Russia is doing is getting a foothold in the Middle East to advance its geopolitical power. Putin can hardly be seen as a force for good in the world. As Kissenger said, what the world needs is a policy on Putin. Does the West react, or simply get out of his way?
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Reply #93 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:40pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:22pm:
Herbie, targeting civilian populations with saturation bombing and mortar fire is otherwise known as a war crime. If it wasn’t for the US on the Security Council, Israel would be tried in the Hague for doing just what you suggest in Lebanon. Saddam was hung for doing the same with the Kurds, as were many Nazis and Japs after WWII.

The Assad regime is not a source of stability in its region. It’s the source of a civil war that’s sending millions of refugees into the Middle East and Europe. The regime is universally despised by its subjects, who it’s murdered 200,000 of already. If the Assad regime is supported, it will be deposed eventually. It will go before long.

All Russia is doing is getting a foothold in the Middle East to advance its geopolitical power. Putin can hardly be seen as a force for good in the world. As Kissenger said, what the world needs is a policy on Putin. Does the West react, or simply get out of his way?


Dear Jesus, there are so many potholes in your thinking that I dare not go there lest I break my Monroe shocks.

Try to read a little more eclectically. Sticking to the Social Alliance and The Guardian has had a bonsai effect upon the growth of your knowledge on these matters.

I'm handing you over to cods to deal with while I take a rest ...

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Reply #94 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 3:11pm
 
I imagine you’re right,.International law, the Geneva Convention, and daring to speak out in defence of civilian populations are now known as potholes in one’s thinking. Arbeit macht frei, nein?

You have a nice lie down, Herbie. You’ve earned it.
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Reply #95 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 4:03pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:40pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:22pm:
Herbie, targeting civilian populations with saturation bombing and mortar fire is otherwise known as a war crime. If it wasn’t for the US on the Security Council, Israel would be tried in the Hague for doing just what you suggest in Lebanon. Saddam was hung for doing the same with the Kurds, as were many Nazis and Japs after WWII.

The Assad regime is not a source of stability in its region. It’s the source of a civil war that’s sending millions of refugees into the Middle East and Europe. The regime is universally despised by its subjects, who it’s murdered 200,000 of already. If the Assad regime is supported, it will be deposed eventually. It will go before long.

All Russia is doing is getting a foothold in the Middle East to advance its geopolitical power. Putin can hardly be seen as a force for good in the world. As Kissenger said, what the world needs is a policy on Putin. Does the West react, or simply get out of his way?


Dear Jesus, there are so many potholes in your thinking that I dare not go there lest I break my Monroe shocks.

Try to read a little more eclectically. Sticking to the Social Alliance and The Guardian has had a bonsai effect upon the growth of your knowledge on these matters.

I'm handing you over to cods to deal with while I take a rest ...



Don't worry it will still be here when you get back. After all its not like the place isn't infested with it.
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Reply #96 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 4:27pm
 
So who won these wars Karnal?
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Reply #97 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:05pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 8:30pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 1:46pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:58pm:
You ever feel like the little boy with a finger in the dyke trying to explain away every act of instance of Muslim misbehaviour as being mistaken and nuffin to do wiv you know, nuffin? 


The truth is...



... a stranger to you and Soren.



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Reply #98 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:08pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:22pm:
Herbie, targeting civilian populations with saturation bombing and mortar fire is otherwise known as a war crime. If it wasn’t for the US on the Security Council, Israel would be tried in the Hague for doing just what you suggest in Lebanon. Saddam was hung for doing the same with the Kurds, as were many Nazis and Japs after WWII.

You stupid, mendacious clown. You KNOW that civilian population is not targeted by Israel.
Yet you lie.



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Reply #99 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:36pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:08pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 1:22pm:
Herbie, targeting civilian populations with saturation bombing and mortar fire is otherwise known as a war crime. If it wasn’t for the US on the Security Council, Israel would be tried in the Hague for doing just what you suggest in Lebanon. Saddam was hung for doing the same with the Kurds, as were many Nazis and Japs after WWII.

You stupid, mendacious clown. You KNOW that civilian population is not targeted by Israel.
Yet you lie.





And yet, old boy, a majority of the UN seem to think that it is. Phospherous bombs on blocks of flats. Thank G_d for Uncle vetoing such stupid, mendacious resolutions on the Security Council, eh?

You KNOW.
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Reply #100 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:38pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 8:30pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 1:46pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:58pm:
You ever feel like the little boy with a finger in the dyke trying to explain away every act of instance of Muslim misbehaviour as being mistaken and nuffin to do wiv you know, nuffin? 


The truth is...



... a stranger to you and Soren.



Tujd.



You like Danish, no?
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Reply #101 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:41pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:38pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:05pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 8:30pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 1:46pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:58pm:
You ever feel like the little boy with a finger in the dyke trying to explain away every act of instance of Muslim misbehaviour as being mistaken and nuffin to do wiv you know, nuffin? 


The truth is...



... a stranger to you and Soren.



Tujd.



You like Danish, no?


You like medication for mentally disabled people , no?
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #102 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 4:27pm:
So who won these wars Karnal?


Oh, I’d say those Ba’athists who lived to fight another day as ISIS, wouldn’t you?

In the end, FD, does anybody ever win?
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Reply #103 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:43pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:41pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 4:27pm:
So who won these wars Karnal?


Oh, I’d say those Ba’athists who lived to fight another day as ISIS, wouldn’t you?

In the end, FD, does anybody ever win?


The one that rids us of the most muslims wins. They contribute the most and get the most points for making the world a better place.
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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years  after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin Grin Grin Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.
 
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Reply #104 - Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:53pm
 
LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:43pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 9:41pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 13th, 2015 at 4:27pm:
So who won these wars Karnal?


Oh, I’d say those Ba’athists who lived to fight another day as ISIS, wouldn’t you?

In the end, FD, does anybody ever win?


The one that rids us of the most muslims wins. They contribute the most and get the most points for making the world a better place.


The prize for that one goes to General Suharto, Matty. He killed over a million Indonesians with the full backing of Nixon and Kissenger.

Back then, they were known as "communist suspects". We didn’t have the Muselman back then. The terrorists were called "leftists" and Australia was white. Herbie was in his element.

Ah, the good old days.

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