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Melhem takes one for Shorten?
Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:16pm
 
The royal commission into Union Corruption will charge Cesar Melham on a number of corruption charges

Mr Melham was Mr Shorten's successor at the AWU

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Reply #1 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:28pm
 
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30021705/shorten-in-clear-at-unions-commission/

"Federal Labor leader Bill Shorten is not expected to face any adverse findings from the trade unions royal commission after the inquiry's lawyers said he did not engage in criminal or unlawful conduct while a union official.

However, commission lawyers did urge a finding that Mr Shorten's successor as head of the Victorian branch of the Australian Workers' Union (AWU), now-Victorian MP Cesar Melhem, may have breached laws regarding corrupt commissions in relation to $25,000 in payments the union received from cleaning contractor Cleanevent.

In submissions released late on Friday night, counsel assisting the commission made no suggestion that Commissioner Dyson Heydon make findings against Mr Shorten in relation to his time as leader of the AWU.

"There is no submission that Mr Bill Shorten may have engaged in any criminal or unlawful conduct," a statement from the commission said.
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Best side with the angels, Maqqa.... the trolls on Ozpolitic are unworthy of your attention... let's just stick with the facts....
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Reply #2 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:36pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:28pm:
"There is no submission that Mr Bill Shorten may have engaged in any criminal or unlawful conduct," a statement from the commission said.
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Yep, no submission.
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Reply #3 - Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:39pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:36pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:28pm:
"There is no submission that Mr Bill Shorten may have engaged in any criminal or unlawful conduct," a statement from the commission said.
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Yep, no submission.



Read it again - that's - errr - submission from the council assisting the commission - those who are effectively the prosecution lawyers.... not from lawyers representing Shorten.

Some of you kids need to keep up.

Funny thing is, this story came out on Friday night when everyone is out and about partying for TGIF.....  that means on Monday the usual suspect newspapers can go straight back to throwing sh!t at Shorten over 'allegations in the royal commission'....

What a joke....
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Reply #4 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 5:58am
 
Maqqa wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:16pm:
The royal commission into Union Corruption will charge Cesar Melham on a number of corruption charges

Mr Melham was Mr Shorten's successor at the AWU



if memory serves me correct... Melham just carried on the work that Bull Shitten had already set up...

although, documentation may have been lost in the shredder...  Angry
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Reply #5 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 5:59am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 5:58am:
Maqqa wrote on Nov 6th, 2015 at 11:16pm:
The royal commission into Union Corruption will charge Cesar Melham on a number of corruption charges

Mr Melham was Mr Shorten's successor at the AWU



if memory serves me correct... Melham just carried on the work that Bull Shitten had already set up...

although, documentation may have been lost in the shredder...  Angry


Exactly. We will never know the true extent of Shorten's involvement thanks to the illegal shredding of papers.
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Reply #6 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:06am
 
wouldnt it be the first time in history if a leader of one of the top parties in the country was charged with a CRIME?... lets be honest here.. shortarse takes all the credit whenever he can.. but --------------

its the usual case of pass the buck...is anyone surprised..look at THOMO they bent the rules so far I am surprised he hasnt been compensated for his time.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes.. you just need the right mouthpiece or position..

why would thye try so hard to remove the JUDGE if he didnt have something to answer too..

I dont know who they think they are kidding...it just makes me more and more determined not to vote for either of the bastards....I wouldnt give them the time of day letalone my vote.
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Reply #7 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:09am
 

And the right-wing stupidity just rolls onwards.

You are FOOLS.
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Reply #8 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:24am
 
Kat wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:09am:
And the right-wing stupidity just rolls onwards.

You are FOOLS.



its takes one to know one.. Angry
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Reply #9 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:26am
 


Shorten found guilty by Ozpolitic 'lawyers'.
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Reply #10 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:33am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:26am:
Shorten found guilty by Ozpolitic 'lawyers'.



Just watch.

Like the pink batts scheme, we'll have this lot whinging for the next 12 months, refusing to accept the umpire's decision.
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Reply #11 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:38am
 
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Bill Shorten himself can breath easier, even though his former union, his successor and some companies he dealt with all face the possibility of criminal charges:


The Commissioner investigating trade union corruption has been advised that Bill Shorten did not engage in any criminal or unlawful conduct.

No evidence was given proving Shorten broke the law as head of the Australian Workers Union. Yet this happened under his nose:

Mr Stoljar said a common theme in seven AWU Victoria case studies being probed by the commission was that secret payments were made by businesses to the union “in many cases” amid enterprise bargaining negotiations which “profoundly weakens the union’s position”.

Other themes running through the case studies were bogus invoices and inflated union memberships.

In some cases, workers, such as those employed by agricultural group Chiquita Mushrooms, ended up being worse off financially than they were previous employment agreements.

“The fact that a union has entered into an undisclosed arrangement during that bargaining process pursuant to which it receives significant sums from an employer is likely to inhibit the ability of the union vigorously to defend and prosecute its members’ interests in relation to that employer,’’ Mr Stoljar said.

He said it was not suggested that any AWU officials personally benefited from the conduct but “nevertheless the submissions are to the effect that the AWU Vic itself, and a number of officials, may have committed offences”.


And while Shorten may indeed have acted legally, did he act properly?


Mr Stoljar rejected Mr Shorten’s reasoning or signing away worker’s rights at cleaning company Cleanevent — which cost 5000-odd workers up to $400m in lost wages.

In 2004, under Mr Shorten, AWU Victoria entered an EBA which stripped workers of the company of nightime and weekend penalty rates which saw workers paid, in many cases, less than half of what they were entitled under the industry award.

Mr Shorten, who was the AWU Victoria general secretary from 1998 to 2007 and AWU National Secretary from 2001 to 2007, told the commission he had agreed to this arrangement because it was “fanciful in the real world” that cleaners were being paid award penalty rates.

In his submission, Mr Stoljar said there was “little evidence” to support that claim.

“There is little evidence that other employers in the industry were paying less than award rates, although that of course is always possible,” he said.

Mr Shorten is unlikely to face any fallout from his role in arranging for struggling construction firm Unibuilt to pay the wages of staffer Lance Wilson during his 2007 election campaign. However Mr Melhem may have broken AWU rules for writing off a debt Unibuilt owed to the union, the submissions state.


And:


While he does not call for charges against Mr Shorten, Mr Stoljar’s submission acknowledges Mr Shorten’s role as then Victorian AWU secretary in initial discussions over the idea of Thiess John Holland making payments to the union.


what a rotten **** Bull Shitten is...

and the forum lapdogs just love him.... why? because they are all rolling in the same bed of fleas...
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Reply #12 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:39am
 
Kat wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:33am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:26am:
Shorten found guilty by Ozpolitic 'lawyers'.



Just watch.

Like the pink batts scheme, we'll have this lot whinging for the next 12 months, refusing to accept the umpire's decision.


why would you support a grub that signed away 400 million dollars in lost wages???
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Reply #13 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:41am
 
Melhem takes one for Shorten?

For some posters honesty is a foreign concept - there is nothing honest about this claim.
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Reply #14 - Nov 7th, 2015 at 6:44am
 
Mud sticks and I think Mr Shorten is already wearing quite a bit.
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