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Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Nov 8^th, 2015 at 2:56pm

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Religion doesn't make kids more generous or altruistic, study finds

Here’s a discovery that could make secular parents say hallelujah: Children who grow up in nonreligious homes are more generous and altruistic than children from observant families.

A series of experiments involving 1,170 kids from a variety of religious backgrounds found that the non-believers were more likely to share stickers with their classmates and less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-sn-religion-sharing-kids-20151106-story.ht...

These results seem to fly in the face of the idea that religion is necessary to lead a moral life — a notion “so deeply embedded that individuals who are not religious can be considered morally suspect,” as the study authors put it.

The findings “call into question whether religion is vital for moral development,” the researchers concluded. They don't seem to think so; separating religion from morality, they wrote, “will not reduce human kindness — in fact, it will do just the opposite.”

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Reply #1 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:58pm

Religious people are selfish and self-centred, just look at Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison and the religious posters on here and how they are happy to treat asylum seekers.

Peter Dutton....let's see.....he got a 'Christian Values Award'.....he might be just a low life grunt though.

Mostly horrible people, even the nice ones have horrible humanitarian ideals.

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Reply #2 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:04pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Religious people are selfish and self-centred, just look at Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison and the religious posters on here and how they are happy to treat asylum seekers.

Peter Dutton....let's see.....he got a 'Christian Values Award'.....he might be just a low life grunt though.

Mostly horrible people, even the nice ones have horrible humanitarian ideals.

Yet it is the non religious that feel the need to abuse them and make threads on forums about them. What silly dumb stupid angry ugly individuals you are.

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Reply #3 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:08pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Religious people are selfish and self-centred, just look at Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison and the religious posters on here and how they are happy to treat asylum seekers.

Peter Dutton....let's see.....he got a 'Christian Values Award'.....he might be just a low life grunt though.

Mostly horrible people, even the nice ones have horrible humanitarian ideals.

By and large, the Christians on this forum behave appallingly and are a terrible representation of their religion but they're not all like that.

My parent's church is very pro-asylum seeker, among other altruistic and truly compassionate things. My parents are very nice people who raised me to be thoughtful, non-prejudiced and humble. I was taught similar things through my convent school education. That convent sponsored several Vietnamese refugees.

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Reply #4 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:13pm

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Religious people are selfish and self-centred, just look at Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison and the religious posters on here and how they are happy to treat asylum seekers.

Peter Dutton....let's see.....he got a 'Christian Values Award'.....he might be just a low life grunt though.

Mostly horrible people, even the nice ones have horrible humanitarian ideals.

By and large, the Christians on this forum behave appallingly and are a terrible representation of their religion but they're not all like that.

My parent's church is very pro-asylum seeker, among other altruistic and truly compassionate things. My parents are very nice people who raised me to be thoughtful, non-prejudiced and humble. I was taught similar things through my convent school education. That convent sponsored several Vietnamese refugees.

The Roman Catholic Church Grin

with a Pope, Pedophile priests and prayer to dead people. Yes very Christian. Its a shame its not the Holy Catholic Church as mentioned in the bible. Your parents are clearly just lefty nutters with a pedophile pretend church under their belts. You are what they ended up producing which says it all really.

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Reply #5 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:18pm

He Man wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Religious people are selfish and self-centred, just look at Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison and the religious posters on here and how they are happy to treat asylum seekers.

Peter Dutton....let's see.....he got a 'Christian Values Award'.....he might be just a low life grunt though.

Mostly horrible people, even the nice ones have horrible humanitarian ideals.

By and large, the Christians on this forum behave appallingly and are a terrible representation of their religion but they're not all like that.

My parent's church is very pro-asylum seeker, among other altruistic and truly compassionate things. My parents are very nice people who raised me to be thoughtful, non-prejudiced and humble. I was taught similar things through my convent school education. That convent sponsored several Vietnamese refugees.

The Roman Catholic Church Grin

with a Pope, Pedophile priests and prayer to dead people. Yes very Christian. Its a shame its not the Holy Catholic Church as mentioned in the bible. Your parents are clearly just lefty nutters with a pedophile pretend church under their belts. You are what they ended up producing which says it all really.

Which particular church was mentioned in the Bible, He Man?

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Reply #6 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:20pm

mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:08pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 3:58pm:

Religious people are selfish and self-centred, just look at Tony Abbott and Scott Morrison and the religious posters on here and how they are happy to treat asylum seekers.

Peter Dutton....let's see.....he got a 'Christian Values Award'.....he might be just a low life grunt though.

Mostly horrible people, even the nice ones have horrible humanitarian ideals.

By and large, the Christians on this forum behave appallingly and are a terrible representation of their religion but they're not all like that.

My parent's church is very pro-asylum seeker, among other altruistic and truly compassionate things. My parents are very nice people who raised me to be thoughtful, non-prejudiced and humble. I was taught similar things through my convent school education. That convent sponsored several Vietnamese refugees.

Good to hear Mothra, a first hand report of a church being pro asylum seeker.

There's a famous one in Gosford that is very left-leaning too, with a political voice. I bet that pastor doesn't even molest children.

I like that, and this:

The 'Christians on this forum are very selective.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious Reply #7 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:25pm And Father Bob McGuire. You gotta love Father Bob.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29967 Gender:	Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious Reply #8 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:30pm Why do you judge the worthiness of religious people on the basis of whether or not they support the entry of illegal economic boat hopping migrants you call asylum seekers? Most of which belong to a so called religion that is extremely intolerant of any other religion.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29967 Gender:	Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious Reply #9 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:32pm mothra wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:25pm: And Father Bob McGuire. You gotta love Father Bob. Actually he's one catholic clergyman I do respect.
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Reply #10 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:37pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Why do you judge the worthiness of religious people on the basis of whether or not they support the entry of illegal economic boat hopping migrants you call asylum seekers?

Most of which belong to a so called religion that is extremely intolerant of any other religion.

It's more about the overall treatment of those people Gnads. From start to finish. And i don't agree with your descriptor.

And the people fleeing persecution aren't usually the ones with Draconian ideas. They are persecuted because they disagree with Draconian ideas.

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Reply #11 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:35pm

____ wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:

Another thread for freediver

Religion doesn't make kids more generous or altruistic, study finds

Here’s a discovery that could make secular parents say hallelujah: Children who grow up in nonreligious homes are more generous and altruistic than children from observant families.

A series of experiments involving 1,170 kids from a variety of religious backgrounds found that the non-believers were more likely to share stickers with their classmates and less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-sn-religion-sharing-kids-20151106-story.ht...

These results seem to fly in the face of the idea that religion is necessary to lead a moral life — a notion “so deeply embedded that individuals who are not religious can be considered morally suspect,” as the study authors put it.

The findings “call into question whether religion is vital for moral development,” the researchers concluded. They don't seem to think so; separating religion from morality, they wrote, “will not reduce human kindness — in fact, it will do just the opposite.”

SHARING STICKERS????????????????????

Since when was that any kind of development of altruism. What an absolutely worthless study!

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35578 Gender:	Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious Reply #12 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:45pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:35pm: SHARING STICKERS???????????????????? Since when was that any kind of development of altruism. What an absolutely worthless study! What do you think sharing stickers is a sign of Maria?
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Reply #13 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:51pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:35pm:

____ wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:

Another thread for freediver

Religion doesn't make kids more generous or altruistic, study finds

Here’s a discovery that could make secular parents say hallelujah: Children who grow up in nonreligious homes are more generous and altruistic than children from observant families.

A series of experiments involving 1,170 kids from a variety of religious backgrounds found that the non-believers were more likely to share stickers with their classmates and less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others.

http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-sn-religion-sharing-kids-20151106-story.ht...

These results seem to fly in the face of the idea that religion is necessary to lead a moral life — a notion “so deeply embedded that individuals who are not religious can be considered morally suspect,” as the study authors put it.

The findings “call into question whether religion is vital for moral development,” the researchers concluded. They don't seem to think so; separating religion from morality, they wrote, “will not reduce human kindness — in fact, it will do just the opposite.”

SHARING STICKERS????????????????????

Since when was that any kind of development of altruism. What an absolutely worthless study!

What would you prefer children be sharing in the study. Kidneys?

Just because you don't like the results of the study doesn't diminish the findings.
i.e morality is not linked with religion.

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Reply #14 - Nov 8^th, 2015 at 5:52pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 8^th, 2015 at 4:30pm:

Why do you judge the worthiness of religious people on the basis of whether or not they support the entry of illegal economic boat hopping migrants you call asylum seekers?

Most of which belong to a so called religion that is extremely intolerant of any other religion.

Christianity?

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