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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #60 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #61 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:49am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

None of that explains why one group acted differently to the other groups.

None of that explains why religious children showed less empathy during images of children being bumped or bullied and asked for lesser punitive responses to those images.

You really can't answer the question can you Maria? o you just become abusive instead.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #62 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:54am

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

None of that explains why one group acted differently to the other groups.

None of that explains why religious children showed less empathy during images of children being bumped or bullied and asked for lesser punitive responses to those images.

You really can't answer the question can you Maria? o you just become abusive instead.

This is going nowhere. Every argument bumps up against your ignorance and general stupidity. My guess is that you've learned nothing new in a long time and perhaps nothing that changes your mind... ever.

If you ever have kids, you will see just how dumb you have been.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #63 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:57am

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

None of that explains why one group acted differently to the other groups.

None of that explains why religious children showed less empathy during images of children being bumped or bullied and asked for lesser punitive responses to those images.

You really can't answer the question can you Maria? o you just become abusive instead.

This is going nowhere. Every argument bumps up against your ignorance and general stupidity. My guess is that you've learned nothing new in a long time and perhaps nothing that changes your mind... ever.

If you ever have kids, you will see just how dumb you have been.

More abuse because you've been backed into a corner.

Typical.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #64 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 12:01pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

There has been studies on adults, and the results do vary. This study isn't saying these beliefs will remain forever.

All it is saying is as children this behaviour occurs.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #65 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 12:45pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:54am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

None of that explains why one group acted differently to the other groups.

None of that explains why religious children showed less empathy during images of children being bumped or bullied and asked for lesser punitive responses to those images.

You really can't answer the question can you Maria? o you just become abusive instead.

This is going nowhere. Every argument bumps up against your ignorance and general stupidity. My guess is that you've learned nothing new in a long time and perhaps nothing that changes your mind... ever.

If you ever have kids, you will see just how dumb you have been.

You are wasting your time mothra is just a troll, it will go in one ear and out the other. There is nothing in between.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #66 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm

Kytro wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

There has been studies on adults, and the results do vary. This study isn't saying these beliefs will remain forever.

All it is saying is as children this behaviour occurs.

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #67 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:37pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Kytro wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

There has been studies on adults, and the results do vary. This study isn't saying these beliefs will remain forever.

All it is saying is as children this behaviour occurs.

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

Sure. It's a reasonable measure of how willing they are to share, one that is consistent across cultural groups, which is very interesting. You might not think much of it, but people who study human behaviour do because it tells them something about how they are thinking.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #68 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:40pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

It's an excellent way to ascertain if the kids are willing to share. Why do you think some children would share and some wouldn't Maria?

Also, the sharing of stickers wasn't the only part of the experiment. A fact you are unwilling to address.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #69 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:46pm

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

It's an excellent way to ascertain if the kids are willing to share. Why do you think some children would share and some wouldn't Maria?

Also, the sharing of stickers wasn't the only part of the experiment. A fact you are unwilling to address.

its a TERRIBLE way to assess sharing - something an actual parent would know. Not all kids love stickers. "sharing' them could be nothing more than reflecting their disinterest or low perceived value. a PROPER study would find things of high value to all.

Seriously, have you spent ANY time with young children?

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Reply #70 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:49pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

It's an excellent way to ascertain if the kids are willing to share. Why do you think some children would share and some wouldn't Maria?

Also, the sharing of stickers wasn't the only part of the experiment. A fact you are unwilling to address.

its a TERRIBLE way to assess sharing - something an actual parent would know. Not all kids love stickers. "sharing' them could be nothing more than reflecting their disinterest or low perceived value. a PROPER study would find things of high value to all.

Seriously, have you spent ANY time with young children?

So you are saying that religious children like stickers more than non-religious children Maria? That that is why they didn't share? The non-religious children placed no value on the stickers so were willing to share?

Is that how you explain the discrepancy?

Again, this is still more deflection from you over the other part of the study you are trying to avoid talking about.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #71 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 4:13pm

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

It's an excellent way to ascertain if the kids are willing to share. Why do you think some children would share and some wouldn't Maria?

Also, the sharing of stickers wasn't the only part of the experiment. A fact you are unwilling to address.

its a TERRIBLE way to assess sharing - something an actual parent would know. Not all kids love stickers. "sharing' them could be nothing more than reflecting their disinterest or low perceived value. a PROPER study would find things of high value to all.

Seriously, have you spent ANY time with young children?

So you are saying that religious children like stickers more than non-religious children Maria? That that is why they didn't share? The non-religious children placed no value on the stickers so were willing to share?

Is that how you explain the discrepancy?

Again, this is still more deflection from you over the other part of the study you are trying to avoid talking about.

A better research topic would be "Does mothra possess the capability of understanding an opposing point of view? Not accepting but merely understanding."

So far the evidence is ABSOLUTELY NOT.

You and JS should marry. You could breed a new generation of truly stupid kids - who will share stickers!

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #72 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 4:22pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 4:13pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:40pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

It's an excellent way to ascertain if the kids are willing to share. Why do you think some children would share and some wouldn't Maria?

Also, the sharing of stickers wasn't the only part of the experiment. A fact you are unwilling to address.

its a TERRIBLE way to assess sharing - something an actual parent would know. Not all kids love stickers. "sharing' them could be nothing more than reflecting their disinterest or low perceived value. a PROPER study would find things of high value to all.

Seriously, have you spent ANY time with young children?

So you are saying that religious children like stickers more than non-religious children Maria? That that is why they didn't share? The non-religious children placed no value on the stickers so were willing to share?

Is that how you explain the discrepancy?

Again, this is still more deflection from you over the other part of the study you are trying to avoid talking about.

A better research topic would be "Does mothra possess the capability of understanding an opposing point of view? Not accepting but merely understanding."

So far the evidence is ABSOLUTELY NOT.

You and JS should marry. You could breed a new generation of truly stupid kids - who will share stickers!

But you haven't explained your point of view on half of the study Maria.

And your objections over the half you will comment upon are questionable at best. I'm not the only person disagreeing with you here, as much as you think bullying me will cover for the fact that you haven't a leg to stand on.

And as usual, all you do when backed into a corner is lash out like a wolverine.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #73 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 4:46pm

Kytro wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 3:37pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 2:58pm:

Kytro wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:28am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 11:05am:

Anyway Maria, the study also showed that the non-religious kids were "less likely to endorse harsh punishments for people who pushed or bumped into others".

What do you have to say to that?

They are KIDS. Grow a brain. IF you had ever had kids, you would see through the idiocy of that statement. Why do you think they don't do this study on ADULTS? Surely the effect of a religious upbringing would be far better determined in adults? But they didn't and we all know why. Because there are gullible people that think that a handful of children with stickers 'explains everything'.

Your gullibility is truly staggering. Did you ever wonder if the TRUE target of this research was the readers to determine just how gullible they are?

PS posting ludicrous 'research' and studying peoples comments, is not a new thing.

Yes they are kids. And the study showed that the older the child was the more likely they were to stick to the studies findings.

Why is the fact that they are kids discredit the findings Maria?

A bright person would not need to be told. Any parent or child-worker will tell you that children change enormously over their development cycle. Anyone who has ever had a teenager knows that in spades.

Why do YOU think they didn't test adults? Perhaps because the result were very different? Or perhaps they are testing the gullibility of people like you.

There has been studies on adults, and the results do vary. This study isn't saying these beliefs will remain forever.

All it is saying is as children this behaviour occurs.

On the basis of sharing stickers? Is there any way they could make a lamer experiment?

Sure. It's a reasonable measure of how willing they are to share, one that is consistent across cultural groups, which is very interesting. You might not think much of it, but people who study human behaviour do because it tells them something about how they are thinking.

And what do you think the degree of confidence is in a study like this? Low to nil? What is most interesting is why anyone thinks' altruism and its relationship to religion can be measured in young children and stickers. Why not toys in short supply or food of varying quantity and preferences?

A far, far, far better experiment would be in adults where altruism is more likely to be a genuine trait rather than a mere learned behaviour (at best) among children.

It is the absence of an adult test or at least control group that really makes this study the truly ridiculous thing that it is.

Some psychology (and psychologists) can be very good. Likewise, some can be so laughingly idiotic it makes you wonder how anyone can be gullible enough to swallow it. This is an example of the latter.

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Re: Secular Children More Altruistic Than Religious
Reply #74 - Nov 9^th, 2015 at 4:55pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 9^th, 2015 at 4:46pm:

A far, far, far better experiment would be in adults where altruism is more likely to be a genuine trait rather than a mere learned behaviour (at best) among children.

If it is just learned behaviour as you say, what does that teach us about religious parents vs the others?

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