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Reply #75 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:13pm
 
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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #76 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:58pm
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:55pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
A far, far, far better experiment would be in adults where altruism is more likely to be a genuine trait rather than a mere learned behaviour (at best) among children.


If it is just learned behaviour as you say, what does that teach us about religious parents vs the others?


Nothing.  The study teaches nobody anything about any topic other than the gullibility of some to think it has value.
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Reply #77 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 9:32pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
And what do you think the degree of confidence is in a study like this? Low to nil? What is most interesting is why anyone thinks' altruism and its relationship to religion can be measured in young children and stickers. Why not toys in short supply or food of varying quantity and preferences?

A far, far, far better experiment would be in adults where altruism is more likely to be a genuine trait rather than a mere learned behaviour (at best) among children.

It is the absence of an adult test or at least control group that really makes this study the truly ridiculous thing that it is.

Some psychology (and psychologists) can be very good. Likewise, some can be so laughingly idiotic it makes you wonder how anyone can be gullible enough to swallow it.  This is an example of the latter.



You're not thinking Maria. You are just reacting in a knee-jerk manner because you don't like the findings.

The stickers are toys in short supply. That is half of the study. I'll take this opportunity to remind you again of the half of the study you are steadfastly ignoring.

What of this 'genuine trait' versus 'learned behaviour' business? My my, you are grasping at straws. If the fact that across several countries, children from a non-religious background shared while across several countries religious children did not suggests that the religious children were not acquiring the habit of sharing, either through nurture or nature. Either the non-religious parents were, across several countries, doing a better job of imparting social values on their children or something in religiosity impedes the natural inclination to share and the tendency to demand more severe punishments whilst being disinclined to forgive. Nature or nurture Maria? What do you think? Either way, it looks pretty grim for religious kids. Across several countries.

There have been plenty of tests done on adults. This has already been pointed out to you.

As for a control group, are you serious? Do you know how psychological group studies work? How would they put together a control group Maria? What would be the instructions for the control group? What would they be tested for and how would that relate to the tests being carried out for the main part of the study. You're not thinking Maria.
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Reply #78 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:00pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
Setanta wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:55pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 4:46pm:
A far, far, far better experiment would be in adults where altruism is more likely to be a genuine trait rather than a mere learned behaviour (at best) among children.


If it is just learned behaviour as you say, what does that teach us about religious parents vs the others?


Nothing.  The study teaches nobody anything about any topic other than the gullibility of some to think it has value.


Yeah well it give the desperate a voice I guess. but you are right its a joke.
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Reply #79 - Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:24pm
 
He Man wrote on Nov 9th, 2015 at 10:00pm:
Yeah well it give the desperate a voice I guess. but you are right its a joke.


How so?  Both subjects.....
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