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Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:09pm
 
Sydney motorists unwilling to pay for more toll roads: study

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    November 10, 2015
    Sydney Morning Herald

A toll-paying Sydney motorist would have to save an hour of travel time before being prepared to pay another $6, the study found.   Huh

Sydney motorists are significantly less likely to drive on new toll roads than previously thought, according to a landmark new study by one of the country's leading traffic experts.

The city's vast and growing network of toll roads means many motorists will increasingly hit their financial limit and ignore faster tolled routes for cheaper yet slower "rat runs".

The findings by David Hensher, the director of the Institute of Transport and Logistics Studies at Sydney University, have major implications for new and existing toll roads through the city, including the 33-kilometre WestConnex motorway that will impose new charges on the currently toll-free M5 East and M4 motorways.


"Many commuters in Sydney are already close to their toll budget threshold":   

Professor Hensher is an expert in transport forecasting who also served as an independent reviewer of patronage forecasts on the $15.4 billion WestConnex.

But according to Professor Hensher's latest study, the modelling that has underpinned all previous and current tolled motorways has never looked at the cumulative impact on motorists of driving on multiple tolled motorways.

In his study, based on a survey of 600 respondents, Professor Hensher found that when the cost of using multiple motorways was added together, motorists were significantly less likely to want to pay to travel.

"This is a very important finding, raising serious concerns about the estimates of VTTS [value of travel time savings] associated with all current studies used to forecast patronage demand for new tolled links when there are existing tolled links in place," says Professor Hensher's study, prepared with colleagues Chinh Ho and Wen Liu.

"It may also have implications for the frequency of use of the existing tolled links."

Traffic forecasters have been notoriously bad at estimating the number of people who will use toll-roads, and have sometimes been out by as much as 100 per cent.   Shocked

But in the past in Sydney, the financial risk of overestimating the number of people who will use a toll road has fallen on private investors. That was the case with the Cross City Tunnel and the Lane Cove Tunnel.

For the NorthConnex motorway, to be built between the M1 to Sydney's north and the M2 at Pennant Hills, the risk will fall on private operator Transurban, though risk has been offset by concessions on other routes.

All of the financial risk of the WestConnex motorway, meanwhile, is expected to fall on the taxpayer because the government intends to sell off sections of the project only after they are open to traffic.

According to Professor Hensher's study, a typical industry estimate of the value motorists put on saving travel time is about $22 an hour.

That is, motorists will pay to use a motorway provided the cost does not go beyond that rate - so, motorists will tend to be prepared to pay a $5.50 toll per person to save 15 minutes.

But in his empirical study of Sydney motorists, drivers value their travel time at no greater than $12 an hour and, for new motorways, possibly closer to $6 per person per hour.

That would mean a motorist who is already paying tolls in Sydney would have to save an hour of travel time before being prepared to pay another $6.   Sad

"The evidence suggests that many commuters in Sydney are already close to their toll budget threshold, which when reached will flatten the commuter's willingness to pay to save extra commuting time," the study says.

Professor Hensher identified Sydney as an ideal "laboratory" for his study because of the city's unusually large number of toll-roads.

Financial documents released by WestConnex show the Baird government has already agreed to increase tolls on the motorway much faster than the current rate of inflation - by at least 4 per cent per year. By the time the entire motorway is planned to be finished early next decade, motorists will have to pay as much as $11 a trip.

Professor Hensher's study was funded by the university, and took place after his work for WestConnex had finished.

According to a spokeswoman for the Sydney Motorway Corporation, the entity in charge of WestConnex, the motorway's traffic modelling "considers the impact of multiple tolls and different willingness to pay studies undertaken in major cities including Sydney, which demonstrate that, if people recognise value in good infrastructure, they will use it".

"WestConnex will save motorists a combined 100,000 hours each day through reduced traffic congestion," the spokeswoman said.
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Reply #1 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:11pm
 
A toll road here, a toll road there.  Everywhere a toll road.  We are sick of toll roads.   Sad
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Reply #2 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:14pm
 
You use you pay, if you don't want to pay, take the slow way.
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Reply #3 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:56pm
 
Traffic forecasters have been notoriously bad at estimating the number of people who will use toll-roads, and have sometimes been out by as much as 100 per cent.   Sad
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Reply #4 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:05pm
 
There's no reason why we should have so much infrastructure in private hands. For too long we have been pandering to greedy rent-seekers and this has to stop. Nationalise them all.
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Reply #5 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:06pm
 
Swagman wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:14pm:
You use you pay, if you don't want to pay, take the slow way.

How many toll roads are on your commute?
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Reply #6 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:12pm
 
WA has NO toll roads although the Barnett Government intends to introduce one....I have never payed a toll in my life and never will....I pay taxes to provide the roads I drive on so why should I pay twice because Barnett is an economic illiterate???


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Reply #7 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:18pm
 
Swagman wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 5:14pm:
You use you pay, if you don't want to pay, take the slow way.


Then don't obstruct free roads to force people to take toll ones then.
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Reply #8 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:20pm
 
toll roads have no level crossings , so you should support them
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Reply #9 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:22pm
 
Yes but maybe one has to go through a level crossing, first before getting to the toll road.   Sad
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Reply #10 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:24pm
 
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Yes but maybe one has to go through a level crossing, first before getting to the toll road.   Sad



gee, you'd get really depressed if you had that double whammy. i will send you a Tony Robbins CD to listen to in the car  Wink
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Reply #11 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm
 
You pay tax on petrol which is supposed to go towards the roads -

instead it goes to consolidated revenue
& you have to pay again to use the roads that should have been built with your taxes.
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Reply #12 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:31pm
 
i love and adore toll roads.
i'm really happy to have a great road and no traffic.
in fact, i wish they'd put the price up so there was even less traffic
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Reply #13 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:32pm
 
The federal government introduced bi annual cpi indexation on fuel in 2014, where's the money going?
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Reply #14 - Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:34pm
 
oh dear wrote on Nov 10th, 2015 at 6:32pm:
The federal government introduced bi annual cpi indexation on fuel in 2014, where's the money going?


Manus island to pay for a runway so Gillian Triggs can fly in and trash talk the good people of australia
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