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Reply #15 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:12pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

The way they send young girls to school is child abuse if you ask me.
I had to drive into the outskirts of Sydney this morning and there it was, everywhere. It was a hot, sultry morning and young girls going to school and young women going to work were in dark clothing, heavy dark leggings under skirts and black headgear.

This is no way for people to dress in Australia. I don't know what other name you would give it but OPPRESSION!
Where is the womens' lib movement? Don't they have anything to say about this?

'Womens's lib' would say that a woman is entitled to dress however she chooses.

But does she REALLY choose? Does she have the right to choose?
I think you know the honest answer to that even if you won't speak it.

In this country? Almost always yes.

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Reply #17 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:16pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

This is no way for people to dress in Australia.

I'd have to disagree with you on that.

"In 2012, 2,036 people died from skin cancer in Australia.

"The majority of these deaths were due to melanoma, with 1,515 deaths from melanoma that year, compared with 521 deaths from non-melanoma skin cancers."

"For best protection, we recommend a combination of sun protection measures:

"Slip on some sun-protective clothing – that covers as much skin as possible

"Slap on a hat – that protects your face, head, neck and ears".

http://www.cancer.org.au/about-cancer/types-of-cancer/skin-cancer.html

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35585 Gender:	Re: I find female muslim dress appalling Reply #18 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:16pm double plus good wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:14pm: I see Muslim dress everyday. From light face coverings to not one piece of skin showing. The later dress style sure gets a reaction. It's women who dislike it the most. It's shocking. You see it every day and you are till shocked?
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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #19 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:26pm

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

The way they send young girls to school is child abuse if you ask me.
I had to drive into the outskirts of Sydney this morning and there it was, everywhere. It was a hot, sultry morning and young girls going to school and young women going to work were in dark clothing, heavy dark leggings under skirts and black headgear.

This is no way for people to dress in Australia. I don't know what other name you would give it but OPPRESSION!
Where is the womens' lib movement? Don't they have anything to say about this?

'Womens's lib' would say that a woman is entitled to dress however she chooses.

But does she REALLY choose? Does she have the right to choose?
I think you know the honest answer to that even if you won't speak it.

In this country? Almost always yes.

You don't understand my point.
I mean if she REALLY had a choice. If she wasn't harangued by some mufti into accepting that it was ordained by God. If she wasn't harangued into that just as people in Birmingham were harangued into voting Labor recently or risk going to hell.

This is not real choice. This is oppression of women and you leftists condone it with a lip service reference to it being what they want.

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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #20 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:28pm

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:16pm:

double plus good wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:14pm:

I see Muslim dress everyday. From light face coverings to not one piece of skin showing. The later dress style sure gets a reaction. It's women who dislike it the most. It's shocking.

You see it every day and you are till shocked?

Yeah. It's full on. It turns heads. I'm used to it but it's like somebody walking into the shops with a sheet covering their body like a ghost. Australians mostly wear shorts and shirts or summer dresses because it's hot. That contrast between skin showing and no skin showing makes it stand out more in my opinion.

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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #21 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:28pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

The way they send young girls to school is child abuse if you ask me.
I had to drive into the outskirts of Sydney this morning and there it was, everywhere. It was a hot, sultry morning and young girls going to school and young women going to work were in dark clothing, heavy dark leggings under skirts and black headgear.

This is no way for people to dress in Australia. I don't know what other name you would give it but OPPRESSION!
Where is the womens' lib movement? Don't they have anything to say about this?

'Womens's lib' would say that a woman is entitled to dress however she chooses.

But does she REALLY choose? Does she have the right to choose?
I think you know the honest answer to that even if you won't speak it.

In this country? Almost always yes.

You don't understand my point.
I mean if she REALLY had a choice. If she wasn't harangued by some mufti into accepting that it was ordained by God. If she wasn't harangued into that just as people in Birmingham were harangued into voting Labor recently or risk going to hell.

This is not real choice. This is oppression of women and you leftists condone it with a lip service reference to it being what they want.

The Muslim women I speak to say it's their choice.

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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #22 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

The way they send young girls to school is child abuse if you ask me.
I had to drive into the outskirts of Sydney this morning and there it was, everywhere. It was a hot, sultry morning and young girls going to school and young women going to work were in dark clothing, heavy dark leggings under skirts and black headgear.

This is no way for people to dress in Australia. I don't know what other name you would give it but OPPRESSION!
Where is the womens' lib movement? Don't they have anything to say about this?

'Womens's lib' would say that a woman is entitled to dress however she chooses.

But does she REALLY choose? Does she have the right to choose?
I think you know the honest answer to that even if you won't speak it.

In this country? Almost always yes.

You don't understand my point.
I mean if she REALLY had a choice. If she wasn't harangued by some mufti into accepting that it was ordained by God. If she wasn't harangued into that just as people in Birmingham were harangued into voting Labor recently or risk going to hell.

This is not real choice. This is oppression of women and you leftists condone it with a lip service reference to it being what they want.

In this country they really have a choice Bogarde. Have you ever asked an Australian woman why she wears head coverings?

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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #23 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

The way they send young girls to school is child abuse if you ask me.
I had to drive into the outskirts of Sydney this morning and there it was, everywhere. It was a hot, sultry morning and young girls going to school and young women going to work were in dark clothing, heavy dark leggings under skirts and black headgear.

This is no way for people to dress in Australia. I don't know what other name you would give it but OPPRESSION!
Where is the womens' lib movement? Don't they have anything to say about this?

'Womens's lib' would say that a woman is entitled to dress however she chooses.

But does she REALLY choose? Does she have the right to choose?
I think you know the honest answer to that even if you won't speak it.

In this country? Almost always yes.

You don't understand my point.
I mean if she REALLY had a choice. If she wasn't harangued by some mufti into accepting that it was ordained by God. If she wasn't harangued into that just as people in Birmingham were harangued into voting Labor recently or risk going to hell.

This is not real choice. This is oppression of women and you leftists condone it with a lip service reference to it being what they want.

The Muslim women I speak to say it's their choice.

Likewise. What's more it's an oft researched topic.

Women by and large say that they are not compelled to wear head coverings by anyone. They choose to and have no judgement on women who choose not to.

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Reply #24 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:48pm

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

EVERY week, on average, one Australian woman is killed by a current or former partner.
More than 27,000 domestic violence assaults were reported to police last year in NSW alone, averaging 74 assaults in the state per day, and it’s the reason behind more than 30 per cent of all homicide cases in New South Wales.

MORE: ‘He left me in the cupboard to die’

One in three women in Australia has experienced some sort of violence since the age of 15, around 3.91 million, and indigenous women are 35 timesmore likely to be affected.
One in five Australian women has been stalked.
It’s an issue estimated to cost the Australian economy $14.4 billion per annum, and it’s the leading contributor to death, disability and ill-health in Australian women aged 15-44.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/the-numbers-that-will-shock-you-to-tears/story-...

I find the ignoring of the female mass murders occurring in Australia more appalling.

If you feel so strongly, why are you still here?

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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #25 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:50pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 12:49pm:

The way they send young girls to school is child abuse if you ask me.
I had to drive into the outskirts of Sydney this morning and there it was, everywhere. It was a hot, sultry morning and young girls going to school and young women going to work were in dark clothing, heavy dark leggings under skirts and black headgear.

This is no way for people to dress in Australia. I don't know what other name you would give it but OPPRESSION!
Where is the womens' lib movement? Don't they have anything to say about this?

'Womens's lib' would say that a woman is entitled to dress however she chooses.

But does she REALLY choose? Does she have the right to choose?
I think you know the honest answer to that even if you won't speak it.

In this country? Almost always yes.

You don't understand my point.
I mean if she REALLY had a choice. If she wasn't harangued by some mufti into accepting that it was ordained by God. If she wasn't harangued into that just as people in Birmingham were harangued into voting Labor recently or risk going to hell.

This is not real choice. This is oppression of women and you leftists condone it with a lip service reference to it being what they want.

The Muslim women I speak to say it's their choice.

And you speak to how many "Muslim women"?

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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #26 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

Muttley wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

EVERY week, on average, one Australian woman is killed by a current or former partner.
More than 27,000 domestic violence assaults were reported to police last year in NSW alone, averaging 74 assaults in the state per day, and it’s the reason behind more than 30 per cent of all homicide cases in New South Wales.

MORE: ‘He left me in the cupboard to die’

One in three women in Australia has experienced some sort of violence since the age of 15, around 3.91 million, and indigenous women are 35 timesmore likely to be affected.
One in five Australian women has been stalked.
It’s an issue estimated to cost the Australian economy $14.4 billion per annum, and it’s the leading contributor to death, disability and ill-health in Australian women aged 15-44.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/the-numbers-that-will-shock-you-to-tears/story-...

I find the ignoring of the female mass murders occurring in Australia more appalling.

If you feel so strongly, why are you still here?

You're statement doesn't make sense.

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Muttley Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 483	Re: I find female muslim dress appalling Reply #27 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:56pm Maybe you're not really speaking to Muslim women at all.......
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Re: I find female muslim dress appalling
Reply #28 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:00pm

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Muttley wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

EVERY week, on average, one Australian woman is killed by a current or former partner.
More than 27,000 domestic violence assaults were reported to police last year in NSW alone, averaging 74 assaults in the state per day, and it’s the reason behind more than 30 per cent of all homicide cases in New South Wales.

MORE: ‘He left me in the cupboard to die’

One in three women in Australia has experienced some sort of violence since the age of 15, around 3.91 million, and indigenous women are 35 timesmore likely to be affected.
One in five Australian women has been stalked.
It’s an issue estimated to cost the Australian economy $14.4 billion per annum, and it’s the leading contributor to death, disability and ill-health in Australian women aged 15-44.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/the-numbers-that-will-shock-you-to-tears/story-...

I find the ignoring of the female mass murders occurring in Australia more appalling.

If you feel so strongly, why are you still here?

You're statement doesn't make sense.

You keep knocking this country, so it makes perfect sense to ask, why are you still here then?

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Reply #29 - Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:04pm

Muttley wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:51pm:

Muttley wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:

____ wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 1:05pm:

EVERY week, on average, one Australian woman is killed by a current or former partner.
More than 27,000 domestic violence assaults were reported to police last year in NSW alone, averaging 74 assaults in the state per day, and it’s the reason behind more than 30 per cent of all homicide cases in New South Wales.

MORE: ‘He left me in the cupboard to die’

One in three women in Australia has experienced some sort of violence since the age of 15, around 3.91 million, and indigenous women are 35 timesmore likely to be affected.
One in five Australian women has been stalked.
It’s an issue estimated to cost the Australian economy $14.4 billion per annum, and it’s the leading contributor to death, disability and ill-health in Australian women aged 15-44.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/the-numbers-that-will-shock-you-to-tears/story-...

I find the ignoring of the female mass murders occurring in Australia more appalling.

If you feel so strongly, why are you still here?

You're statement doesn't make sense.

You keep knocking this country, so it makes perfect sense to ask, why are you still here then?

You think Australians born overseas, that's about 25% of the population, are not allowed to voice their opinions. Perhaps you're in the wrong country.

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