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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #135 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:34am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:25am:

Ah the mythical Moderate muslim lets let that slide..

Stating what islam supports with its own text is simply stating FACTS, NOT painting his or her religion in flamboyant what the hell. You will find most muslims already know these facts. If you knew anything about islam or muslims that is, which clearly you don't. You seem to get confused with the word moderate when they choose not to mutilate or act more westernised.

But anyway. Roll Eyes

Your trolling is a repetitive bore now.

Yet most Mulims do not practise MGM.

The vast majority.

How are they interpreting Islam, if what you say about Islam is indeed true?

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #136 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:42am

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:31am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:26am:

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:23am:

LifeorDeath, what do you as a Christian think should be done for the country of Eritrea?

A Christian country where the vast majority of women and girls has been genitally mutilated?

I have been arguing this with Soren. Education is the key is it not? Surely?

Why do you call it a Christian country ?

Because it is majority Christian.

Chockers with FGM.

Who says its Majority Christian ?

Christianity doesn't support FGM so if the majority are doing that I'd say the country is not Christian according to what Christianity actually is but secular. Some people think America is a Christian country when clearly it is not. Its secular.

To combat the problem that the people are committing.
I'd say outlaw it immediately. School education about it and also through local doctors educating the community and in community centers.

If people are calling themselves Christians and think they are
then proper real Christian churches can reach out to them and help them become Christian in the true sense of the term.

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #137 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:45am

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:34am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:25am:

Ah the mythical Moderate muslim lets let that slide..

Stating what islam supports with its own text is simply stating FACTS, NOT painting his or her religion in flamboyant what the hell. You will find most muslims already know these facts. If you knew anything about islam or muslims that is, which clearly you don't. You seem to get confused with the word moderate when they choose not to mutilate or act more westernised.

But anyway. Roll Eyes

Your trolling is a repetitive bore now.

Yet most Mulims do not practise MGM.

The vast majority.

How are they interpreting Islam, if what you say about Islam is indeed true?

Firstly it is not an IF what I say is true.
I just posted FACT's not if's, that's the way it is.

Islam is not interpreted that part is just ignored.

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #138 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:42am:

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:31am:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:26am:

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:23am:

LifeorDeath, what do you as a Christian think should be done for the country of Eritrea?

A Christian country where the vast majority of women and girls has been genitally mutilated?

I have been arguing this with Soren. Education is the key is it not? Surely?

Why do you call it a Christian country ?

Because it is majority Christian.

Chockers with FGM.

Who says its Majority Christian ?

Christianity doesn't support FGM so if the majority are doing that I'd say the country is not Christian according to what Christianity actually is but secular. Some people think America is a Christian country when clearly it is not. Its secular.

To combat the problem that the people are committing.
I'd say outlaw it immediately. School education about it and also through local doctors educating the community and in community centers.

If people are calling themselves Christians and think they are
then proper real Christian churches can reach out to them and help them become Christian in the true sense of the term.

Can't you understand that that is how most Muslims feel about FGM?

That the fact that it is done in the name of their religion is offensive to them?

Just as you are offended by it being done n the name of Christianity?

But you are right, when you speak of "real churches" reaching out to these people. You can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #139 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:55am

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

Can't you understand that that is how most Muslims feel about FGM?

Can't you understand you don't speak for most muslims.
Secondly if that was the case so what. I just showed that islam supports it. IE. Their religion and they would be aware of that.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

That the fact that it is done in the name of their religion is offensive to them?

And rightfully so it is done in the name of Islam as Islam supports it.

If it offends them then they should leave it.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

Just as you are offended by it being done n the name of Christianity?

I am not offended at all as they are clearly not Christians.
haters have been banging on Christianity for years thats nothing new. Jesus said they would.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

But you are right, when you speak of "real churches" reaching out to these people. You can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

So can you.

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #140 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:04am

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:55am:

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

Can't you understand that that is how most Muslims feel about FGM?

Can't you understand you don't speak for most muslims.
Secondly if that was the case so what. I just showed that islam supports it. IE. Their religion and they would be aware of that.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

That the fact that it is done in the name of their religion is offensive to them?

And rightfully so it is done in the name of Islam as Islam supports it.

If it offends them then they should leave it.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

Just as you are offended by it being done n the name of Christianity?

I am not offended at all as they are clearly not Christians.
haters have been banging on Christianity for years thats nothing new. Jesus said they would.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

But you are right, when you speak of "real churches" reaching out to these people. You can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

So can you.

This is a really difficult concept for you i'm aware.

What you need understand is that not all things that happen in all religions are demonstrative of the main.

You are half there with you refusal to accept Eritrea as a Christian country. You are making a stand against a dangerous mind-set. Congratulations. But you are overlooking how very much they have in common with you. Bummer, hey?

Not noce being misrepresented is it?

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #141 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:18am

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:04am:

This is a really difficult concept for you i'm aware.

You don't seem to be aware of much at all. You weren't aware and refuse to acknowledge Islam supports FGM.
You choose to ignore this fact. You also choose to ignore that fact that islam is so strict most muslims would be aware of it and choose to ignore it. So more to the point you seem to be the one with difficulty here.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:04am:

What you need understand is that not all things that happen in all religions are demonstrative of the main.

Firstly if the religions supports it it is the MAIN doctrine they are part of, if they don't practice it well good for them. Why are they still in it, maybe they are thick. As for knowing what goes on in THE MAIN you as mothra would not have any idea at all regarding what happens in the MAIN with this community.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:04am:

You are half there with you refusal to accept Eritrea as a Christian country.

IF what you say(posted) is true I was 100% correct and all the way there.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:04am:

You are making a stand against a dangerous mind-set. Congratulations.

Well gee wiz golly gosh I am glad I got your approval for promoting basic human rights.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:04am:

But you are overlooking how very much they have in common with you. Bummer, hey?

Yeah I run around committing FGM idiot.

Yet here you just post useless crap. The bummer is your willingness to live in ignorance yourself. The bummer is islam just made a huge fool of you tonight not me. Now that's a Bummer and its all yours not mine.

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 3:04am:

Not noce being misrepresented is it?

I was never misrepresented. It has nothing to do with me or Christianity. I just pointed out how Islam supports FGM and Christianity does not and the examples you were trying to give as it does were not examples of Christianity.

No biggy just a statement of facts.

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #142 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 10:46am

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 5:34pm:

would you care to reflect on what i meant the word education to mean in this context and how it would be beneficial in preventing harm to at least some degree initially, then more over time.

Are you suggesting that we don't educate people that female genital mutilation is not the done thing in Australia?

I am suggesting that you are
1. Not thinking
2. You have only glib answers ("education is the key") because of the above.

Muslims are Muslims because they believe, accept and act out what their religion and belief system tells them to think, believe and act out.
Regardless of their level of education.

Your idiotically shallow reference to education would make sense ONLY if education actually meant the discarding of primitive and backward Muslim beliefs.

But that is not what you mean or can even imagine. You say what you do because you do not think. You certainly do not mean that Islam, a backward and regressive belief system, could or should be educated OUT OF Muslims. You think Muslims could be made to be Muslims AND progressives if only they imbibed the crap you have well and truly made your personal system of orientation in the world.

But it's not going to happen. Muslims are convinced about something you cannot even begin to imagine. And they are not going to give that away for your wishy-washy, spineless, self-contradictory load of 'progressive' (ie regressive) bollox.

You still fail to understand what i mean by education in this instance.

I mean that people must be educated about female genital mutilation. I'm not talking about their educational qualifications.

Now as to the rest of your rant, why do you think it is that most Muslims don't practice genital mutilation? Do you think that is important to the discussion? You seem to be intent on representing all Muslims as backward. Do you think that it makes those who do not practise genital mutilation 'progressives'? The connection between progressives and educating people about the consequences of female genital mutilation being important to you all.

Don't you think we could use some of those Muslims who don't interpret the Qu'ran as instructing that barbarous practice to be completely abolished to educate their less enlightened fellows?

Don't you see this as being a practical solution Soren?

How else do you think the practice has become less wide-spread over time?

Islam is about Submission, not Progress.

The Islamic State demonstrates that with Islam, regression is done in the blink of an eye because there is no substance or recognised law or authority that has taken Islam beyond where it was when Mohammed died in the 7th century. There is no Church, no canon law, no bishops' conference -there is NO moving on from Mohammed in the 7th century. Nobody has the authority to move Islam out of the 7th century. That is the stupendous achievement of Mohammed the Meshuggeh.

Your blabbering about education is a wholly un-Islamic take on things. You are stupid enough (9/10 enough) to imagine that your values are universal. Muslims do not think like you. Whatever you belief are, people with any other belief system do not think like you. Can you imagine that? And if you can, do you want to accommodate every other alternative belief system? Where do you draw the line?

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

It's not their custom.

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #143 - Nov 14^th, 2015 at 10:50am

mothra wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 2:47am:

Can't you understand that that is how most Muslims feel about FGM?

That the fact that it is done in the name of their religion is offensive to them?

What are they doing about it then?

Nothing - other than being offended. Muslims may be 2.2% of the population but they have cornered the being offended market. If it's not the crusades then it's cartoons, if not cartoons then it's being identified as Muslims. Muslims have always something to feel offended by.

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