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Reply #30 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:44pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 10:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 9:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:

Why did we bring Muslims here?

Cry

Those people are f.cked up well and truly. They are so perverted themselves they hate the idea of someone else having a good time.

Idiots and their old religious books full of sh.t Sad

Someone should make a youtube video of using the Quaran as dunny paper and then flushing it down the toilet - skid marks and all Cheesy

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We don't want them here -

they're crazy.

How the hell could you cut your daughters clit off?

It's abominable.

And inexcusable.

Oh...and here in Australia, it's also a crime.

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Reply #31 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 8:27pm

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 5:34pm:

would you care to reflect on what i meant the word education to mean in this context and how it would be beneficial in preventing harm to at least some degree initially, then more over time.

Are you suggesting that we don't educate people that female genital mutilation is not the done thing in Australia?

I am suggesting that you are
1. Not thinking
2. You have only glib answers ("education is the key") because of the above.

Muslims are Muslims because they believe, accept and act out what their religion and belief system tells them to think, believe and act out.
Regardless of their level of education.

Your idiotically shallow reference to education would make sense ONLY if education actually meant the discarding of primitive and backward Muslim beliefs.

But that is not what you mean or can even imagine. You say what you do because you do not think. You certainly do not mean that Islam, a backward and regressive belief system, could or should be educated OUT OF Muslims. You think Muslims could be made to be Muslims AND progressives if only they imbibed the crap you have well and truly made your personal system of orientation in the world.

But it's not going to happen. Muslims are convinced about something you cannot even begin to imagine. And they are not going to give that away for your wishy-washy, spineless, self-contradictory load of 'progressive' (ie regressive) bollox.

You still fail to understand what i mean by education in this instance.

I mean that people must be educated about female genital mutilation. I'm not talking about their educational qualifications.

Now as to the rest of your rant, why do you think it is that most Muslims don't practice genital mutilation? Do you think that is important to the discussion? You seem to be intent on representing all Muslims as backward. Do you think that it makes those who do not practise genital mutilation 'progressives'? The connection between progressives and educating people about the consequences of female genital mutilation being important to you all.

Don't you think we could use some of those Muslims who don't interpret the Qu'ran as instructing that barbarous practice to be completely abolished to educate their less enlightened fellows?

Don't you see this as being a practical solution Soren?

How else do you think the practice has become less wide-spread over time?

Islam is about Submission, not Progress.

The Islamic State demonstrates that with Islam, regression is done in the blink of an eye because there is no substance or recognised law or authority that has taken Islam beyond where it was when Mohammed died in the 7th century. There is no Church, no canon law, no bishops' conference -there is NO moving on from Mohammed in the 7th century. Nobody has the authority to move Islam out of the 7th century. That is the stupendous achievement of Mohammed the Meshuggeh.

Your blabbering about education is a wholly un-Islamic take on things. You are stupid enough (9/10 enough) to imagine that your values are universal. Muslims do not think like you. Whatever you belief are, people with any other belief system do not think like you. Can you imagine that? And if you can, do you want to accommodate every other alternative belief system? Where do you draw the line?

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Reply #32 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm

Soren wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:32pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 7:13pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 5:34pm:

would you care to reflect on what i meant the word education to mean in this context and how it would be beneficial in preventing harm to at least some degree initially, then more over time.

Are you suggesting that we don't educate people that female genital mutilation is not the done thing in Australia?

I am suggesting that you are
1. Not thinking
2. You have only glib answers ("education is the key") because of the above.

Muslims are Muslims because they believe, accept and act out what their religion and belief system tells them to think, believe and act out.
Regardless of their level of education.

Your idiotically shallow reference to education would make sense ONLY if education actually meant the discarding of primitive and backward Muslim beliefs.

But that is not what you mean or can even imagine. You say what you do because you do not think. You certainly do not mean that Islam, a backward and regressive belief system, could or should be educated OUT OF Muslims. You think Muslims could be made to be Muslims AND progressives if only they imbibed the crap you have well and truly made your personal system of orientation in the world.

But it's not going to happen. Muslims are convinced about something you cannot even begin to imagine. And they are not going to give that away for your wishy-washy, spineless, self-contradictory load of 'progressive' (ie regressive) bollox.

You still fail to understand what i mean by education in this instance.

I mean that people must be educated about female genital mutilation. I'm not talking about their educational qualifications.

Now as to the rest of your rant, why do you think it is that most Muslims don't practice genital mutilation? Do you think that is important to the discussion? You seem to be intent on representing all Muslims as backward. Do you think that it makes those who do not practise genital mutilation 'progressives'? The connection between progressives and educating people about the consequences of female genital mutilation being important to you all.

Don't you think we could use some of those Muslims who don't interpret the Qu'ran as instructing that barbarous practice to be completely abolished to educate their less enlightened fellows?

Don't you see this as being a practical solution Soren?

How else do you think the practice has become less wide-spread over time?

Islam is about Submission, not Progress.

The Islamic State demonstrates that with Islam, regression is done in the blink of an eye because there is no substance or recognised law or authority that has taken Islam beyond where it was when Mohammed died in the 7th century. There is no Church, no canon law, no bishops' conference -there is NO moving on from Mohammed in the 7th century. Nobody has the authority to move Islam out of the 7th century. That is the stupendous achievement of Mohammed the Meshuggeh.

Your blabbering about education is a wholly un-Islamic take on things. You are stupid enough (9/10 enough) to imagine that your values are universal. Muslims do not think like you. Whatever you belief are, people with any other belief system do not think like you. Can you imagine that? And if you can, do you want to accommodate every other alternative belief system? Where do you draw the line?

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

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Reply #33 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:01pm

It is really dreadful when a mother would even consider such things as worthy for her own daughter. I would not even begin to entertain such things for my daughter... and how a mother could do such things is beyond me.

I suppose it shows how far the oppression of some has gone in human society.... let it not be ours.

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Reply #34 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:06pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

It is really dreadful when a mother would even consider such things as worthy for her own daughter. I would not even begin to entertain such things for my daughter... and how a mother could do such things is beyond me.

I suppose it shows how far the oppression of some has gone in human society.... let it not be ours.

I read once of a trend arising to circumcise the daughters of slave owners in the USA after evidence of the crime was witnessed on slaves.

A way for men to keep women in control.

Don't blame the mothers too much Grap. Some noxious man is telling them what to do.

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Reply #35 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:08pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

It is really dreadful when a mother would even consider such things as worthy for her own daughter. I would not even begin to entertain such things for my daughter... and how a mother could do such things is beyond me.

I suppose it shows how far the oppression of some has gone in human society.... let it not be ours.

Have grave fears about such thing's, ( not that in particular) the way things are going

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Reply #37 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:28pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

You don't speak for the majority of muslims gran. Cheesy

Seeing as i at no point suggested that i did, rather focussed on the fact that not all Muslims think as eachother even ... i do wonder what the point of your interjection is?

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Reply #38 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:29pm

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

You don't speak for the majority of muslims gran. Cheesy

Seeing as i at no point suggested that i did, rather focussed on the fact that not all Muslims think as eachother even ... i do wonder what the point of your interjection is?

"Why do the majority of Muslims"

"the fact that not all Muslims think "

You don't speak for all muslims gran. Cheesy

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There is no evidence of the existence of a muslim,mohammed,or quran until 60 years after mohammed was supposed to have died. Grin

Posting on islam just encourages them and is a waste of time.

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Reply #39 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:33pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

You don't speak for the majority of muslims gran. Cheesy

Seeing as i at no point suggested that i did, rather focussed on the fact that not all Muslims think as eachother even ... i do wonder what the point of your interjection is?

"Why do the majority of Muslims"

"the fact that not all Muslims think "

You don't speak for all muslims gran. Cheesy

Clearly not.

The majority of Muslims do not practice female genital mutilation. This is just a fact. It is an African tradition mostly that pre-dates the Qu'san ans the Bible and the Torah.

But note anyway... i said majority. Does that really translate into me speaking for all Muslims?

Some people will just make stuff up for discord. Buggered if i know why.

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Reply #40 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:35pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:08pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:01pm:

It is really dreadful when a mother would even consider such things as worthy for her own daughter. I would not even begin to entertain such things for my daughter... and how a mother could do such things is beyond me.

I suppose it shows how far the oppression of some has gone in human society.... let it not be ours.

Have grave fears about such thing's, ( not that in particular) the way things are going

You have a very strong point there, Agnes - we really need to look, right now, at what actually constitutes oppression.

It has many ways.. and we need to look at the basis of oppression - qui bono?

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Reply #41 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:36pm

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:33pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

You don't speak for the majority of muslims gran. Cheesy

Seeing as i at no point suggested that i did, rather focussed on the fact that not all Muslims think as eachother even ... i do wonder what the point of your interjection is?

"Why do the majority of Muslims"

"the fact that not all Muslims think "

You don't speak for all muslims gran. Cheesy

Clearly not.

The majority of Muslims do not practice female genital mutilation. This is just a fact. It is an African tradition mostly that pre-dates the Qu'san ans the Bible and the Torah.

But note anyway... i said majority. Does that really translate into me speaking for all Muslims?

Some people will just make stuff up for discord. Buggered if i know why.

Perfectly true, Mothra - most Muslims would not even consider this vile thing...

No real human could do that to their own child....

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Reply #42 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:37pm

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

You don't speak for the majority of muslims gran. Cheesy

Seeing as i at no point suggested that i did, rather focussed on the fact that not all Muslims think as eachother even ... i do wonder what the point of your interjection is?

"Why do the majority of Muslims"

"the fact that not all Muslims think "

You don't speak for all muslims gran. Cheesy

Nor do you......

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Re: Muslim Woman Mutilates Daughters
Reply #43 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:38pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:37pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

You don't speak for the majority of muslims gran. Cheesy

Seeing as i at no point suggested that i did, rather focussed on the fact that not all Muslims think as eachother even ... i do wonder what the point of your interjection is?

"Why do the majority of Muslims"

"the fact that not all Muslims think "

You don't speak for all muslims gran. Cheesy

Nor do you......

Never said I did, crapples. The Qur'an does however.

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Reply #44 - Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:41pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:36pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:33pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:29pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:28pm:

LifeOrDeath wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 11:14pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:57pm:

Simple question Soren. Why do the majority of Muslims not practice female genital mutilation?

You don't speak for the majority of muslims gran. Cheesy

Seeing as i at no point suggested that i did, rather focussed on the fact that not all Muslims think as eachother even ... i do wonder what the point of your interjection is?

"Why do the majority of Muslims"

"the fact that not all Muslims think "

You don't speak for all muslims gran. Cheesy

Clearly not.

The majority of Muslims do not practice female genital mutilation. This is just a fact. It is an African tradition mostly that pre-dates the Qu'san ans the Bible and the Torah.

But note anyway... i said majority. Does that really translate into me speaking for all Muslims?

Some people will just make stuff up for discord. Buggered if i know why.

Perfectly true, Mothra - most Muslims would not even consider this vile thing...

No real human could do that to their own child....

Grap, try to get your hands on a copy of "Possessing the Secret of Joy" by Alice Walker. IT's a compelling look into female genital mutilation from the insde out.

Woman who wrote "The Colour Purple".

I know, it's a vile thing. But we ca only overcome it with intervention and education. The people that do this to their daughters truly believe they are doing it for the best. We need to address that.

Meanwhile, i'm not mad on male circumcision either. Poor little babies.

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