Rider wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 12:00am:


The fossil fuel rebates and subsidies in Australia alone are in the vicinity of 12 billion dollars per year. (my global 480 billion figure was actually very generous to the corrupt Fossil Fuel corporate scamsters - it appears that they have been gouging the public purse to the tune of almost 600 billion in some years - the MASTERS OF CORPORATE WELFARE)

Chimp_Logic wrote on Nov 14^th, 2015 at 9:23am:



According to a report the other day $7 billion, but what's a miserable $5 billion between friends?

Then again that is made up mainly of -

Capital investment allowances that are available to all businesses; and

Fuel Tax Credits, which reduce the amount paid for fuel by way of re-imbursement. But FTC's are assessable income to the businesses receiving them, so that they pay tax on the income received. The net effect is that full price is paid for fuel.

That's some weird arsed subsidy, isn't it? A Clayton's subsidy?

Edit: Do you think renewables get Capital Allowances?

lee suddenly refers to regulations and definitions doesnt he ladies and gentlemen.

except when it comes to AGW - then its pure hatred for children and a clean environment.

There is no limit to the amount of deranged hatred this man can spew out online.

What dont you understand about the OECD figures lee?

lee has a habit of NOT understanding basic concepts that conflict with his lunatical political ideology and corporatised fanaticism.

I fear that lee will never be able to search deep within himself and deliver the apology, albeit late, and then to banish himself for at least 48 hours - preferably 48 months.

In 100 years time electric vehicles will be zipping around everywhere, ( providing that the muslims don't take over and reintroduce Camel travel of course )  , the real problem is that the idiot environmentalists of today are trying to bring this date forward so that they can bask in its glory, its never going to happen you green vegan farkwits! because there is still cheap fossil fuels galore, so get a grip and go and sign yourself up for cryogenics so that you can be defrosted in 2100 and live the green dream. 

Once the world economy ticks up a bit all those Chinese and Indians who want cars will buy them. In the light of this demand reserves will be consumed in record time.

It makes sense to investigate electric transport. It makes sense for us to build at least one good sized modern nuclear powered generator. Baseload solar is a sad joke.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:11am:


Japan had about 52 nuclear power plants until the Fukushima meltdowns in March of 2011. The nuclear power stations provided about 30% of Japans total Grid power demands.

Since 2011 Japan has put all 52 nuclear power stations offline. It was only in the last couple fo months that the Japanese brought one or two nuclear power plants online.

have you looked at the disaster caused by the buggerushima meltdowns? They dont even know how to clean the mess up. Costs could be in the vicinity of 400 Billion dollars over the next 40 years just to contain it - and they havent been able to contain it so far - 4 years plus since the disaster.

A recent medical study by Japanese researchers has found that Childhood Thyroid tumors and abnormalities have soared by as much as 2500%

Obviously you wouldnt mind a nuclear power station next door to you hey???

Educate yourself, Apologise in writing and self ban for 48 hours

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:11pm:



safer does not equal SAFE