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Reply #30 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 3:45am
 
Yeah, modern plants ARE safe. Read up a bit.
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Reply #31 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 6:50am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 3:45am:
Yeah, modern plants ARE safe. Read up a bit.


nuclear power plants are not ordinary industrial infrastructure.

They produce toxic and long lived nuclear waste that needs to be isolated from humans and the environment for many hundreds of thousands of years.

Nuclear power plants need access to power and water even when they are offline. Spent Nuclear cores remain thermally hot for many years after they have been removed from the reactor.

Can you guarantee water supply and power??

Like they did at Fukushima

Plutonium half life is 24,000 years - the most toxic of substances humans have made. It takes between 10 an 20 half lives for these dangerous radionuclides to decay away to background levels.

How are you going to ensure Plutonium isnt used for weaponry or remains safely isolated for at least 1/4 of a million years???

And of course we have isotopes that linger around for longer periods than that - billion of years, like Uranium.

its OK for a coal powered plant to fail, but a nuclear core is another matter. Provide an example of a fool proof industrial process or mechanisation and then describe your perfect nuclear waste management system that will robust for the next 100 million years

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Reply #32 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 7:00am
 
Wow. Coal takes tens of thousands of lives and that is OK?

You are talking Gen 1 plants, read up on modern plants.

Renewables can provide baseload power for homes and light commercial. It cannot provide the high intensity (3phase etc) power for industry.

Close coal fired generators, build a nuclear generator.
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Reply #33 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:05am
 
'AHWR

India is developing the Advanced Heavy Water Reactor (AHWR) as the third stage in its plan to utilise thorium to fuel its overall nuclear power program. The AHWR is a 300 MWe gross (284 MWe net, 920 MWt) reactor moderated by heavy water at low pressure.'

'In 2009 an export version of this design was announced: the AHWR-LEU. This will use low-enriched uranium plus thorium as a fuel, dispensing with the plutonium input. About 39% of the power will come from thorium (via in situ conversion to U-233), and burn-up will be 64 GWd/t. Uranium enrichment level will be 19.75%, giving 4.21% average fissile content of the U-Th fuel. While designed for closed fuel cycle, this is not required. Plutonium production will be less than in light water reactors, and the fissile proportion will be less and the Pu-238 portion three times as high, giving inherent proliferation resistance. The AEC says that "the reactor is manageable with modest industrial infrastructure within the reach of developing countries." '

http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Nuclear-Fuel-Cycle/Power-Reactors/Advanced-Nuc...
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Reply #34 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 11:14am
 
all of a sudden the great lee froths at the mount with unproven technology that is NOT expensive, lunatical, dangerous, inefficient and still produces nuclear waste that needs management and storage for many thousands of years.


There is a significant sticking point to the promotion of thorium as the 'great green hope' of clean energy production: it remains unproven on a commercial scale. While it has been around since the 1950s (and an experimental 10MW LFTR did run for five years during the 1960s at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in the US, though using uranium and plutonium as fuel) it is still a next generation nuclear technology – theoretical.

Thorium reactors disgorging the same toxic byproducts and fissile waste with the same millennial half-lives. Oliver Tickell, author of Kyoto2, says the fission materials produced from thorium are of a different spectrum to those from uranium-235, but 'include many dangerous-to-health alpha and beta emitters'.

Tickell says thorium reactors would not reduce the volume of waste from uranium reactors. 'It will create a whole new volume of radioactive waste from previously radio-inert thorium, on top of the waste from uranium reactors. Looked at in these terms, it's a way of multiplying the volume of radioactive waste humanity can create several times over.'


Thorium reactors are not based upon self sustaining nuclear reactions - they require an intense external Neutron source to convert Thorium into U-233.

Where is that neutron source coming from lee???

Technically these are NOT Thorium reactors but U-233 reactors, an isotope that is much more lethal than U-235.

What nuclear waste is produced by Thorium reactors? How and where is it managed?

...frothing lee should apologise and self ban for 3 weeks


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Reply #35 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 1:06pm
 
Chimp_Logic wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 11:14am:
all of a sudden the great lee froths at the mount



It's a long time since I gave that sermon. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #36 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 1:21pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 1:06pm:
Chimp_Logic wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 11:14am:
all of a sudden the great lee froths at the mount



It's a long time since I gave that sermon. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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Reply #37 - Nov 21st, 2015 at 6:46am
 
Apparently  linfox and toll have ordered over 500 of these new electric trucks..........

Oh hang on...I made that up... Grin Grin 

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Reply #38 - Nov 21st, 2015 at 3:42pm
 
Rider wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 6:46am:
Apparently  linfox and toll have ordered over 500 of these new electric trucks..........

Oh hang on...I made that up... Grin Grin 

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Efficiency breeds success:  Wink Wink

Markets are meant to be robust  Shocked
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