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Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job
Reply #15 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:27am

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:26am:

Muttley wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:13am:

Fixed it for ya dopey.

you think Abbott was a strong leader? then you're just as stupid as he was. Abbott changed his position on just about everything he announced, sometimes 2 or 3 times. Thats a weak leader, not a strong one.

Yup.

Just because abbott was a thug doesn’t mean he was a strong Leader.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #16 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:35am Abort was one dimensional, it was all about keeping refugees out, behind that there was precisely zero policy with substance and long term vision for Australia.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #17 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:36am Dnarever wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:25am: Its time wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 7:56am: 53 47 is all that matters, to longy. I prefer 36 24 34. Nice one
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Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job
Reply #18 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:38am

Muttley wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:21am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:17am:

Muttley wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:12am:

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 6:18am:

Turncoat is another Rudd, he has not make a decent decision since he stabbed Abbott in the back, he is a very weak leader and god help us not that the real decisions need to be make in regard to terrorist. He is afraid to upset the UN and wants to be everyone friend and have high ratings in the polls. That will not help him when we are attacked and we will be, they know he is piss weak and will hit Australia sooner rather that later.

Hear Hear!

Rudd was very good in the GFC. Just saying.

Yep he expanded the country's deficit to an all time low. Now the country and it's taxpayers are paying for it and will continue to do so for a long long time......

"Just saying"

Well done Rudd Grin

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Reply #19 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 2:14pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-15/national-security-'cannot-be-dictated-by-t...

Mr Turnbull said finding a political solution to the situation in Syria was imperative.

"Ultimately, there has to be a political solution. The military angle is very important, it is very important that Daesh is confronted and defeated militarily, but longer term, the stability of Syria, the stability that will enable those millions of refugees to return to their homes, will depend on a political solution," he said.

"That, of course, is what is being pursued in the talks in Vienna, and elsewhere."

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #20 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 2:16pm Don't get me wrong - I am just as angry as anyone about these attacks What Turnbull says is to get rid of Daesh i.e. ISIS But once we kill them - another group will rise up to take control So we have to exert political control on the new group
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Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job
Reply #21 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 2:20pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:26am:

Muttley wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:13am:

Fixed it for ya dopey.

you think Abbott was a strong leader? then you're just as stupid as he was. Abbott changed his position on just about everything he announced, sometimes 2 or 3 times. Thats a weak leader, not a strong one.

Nice to see you're paying attention Jack.......

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Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job
Reply #22 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 2:49pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:26am:

Muttley wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 8:13am:

Fixed it for ya dopey.

you think Abbott was a strong leader? then you're just as stupid as he was. Abbott changed his position on just about everything he announced, sometimes 2 or 3 times. Thats a weak leader, not a strong one.

The evidence tells the tale - and I have to agree with John here.

Abbott's initial resolve on free speech laws and security matters slowly melted into a wet blob on the floor as a result of constant forelock-pulling towards leaders of the Muslim community - who he 'consulted' in humiliating manner on every issue that even vaguely touched upon Islam.

He became utterly irrelevant in the end, and it was all the more shameful in hindsight after he made his speech to the British parliament where he warned against letting in yet more immigrant and refugee Muslims as they were putting European civilisation in danger of dragging it back to the Dark Ages through Islamisation.

In the end he proved to be one of the weakest prime ministers we've ever had. It was only Morrison who had kept him looking good for a while after his election to office.

The 18c racial vilification law that he was going to dump ... chickened out in the end.

The 12,000 Syrian refugees were going to be Christians and a small number of boutique little Islamic sects ... Again ... he chickened out on that.

Over and over he capitulated to lobbying from the Muslim community, until he was just a bloody useless shell of a man.

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Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job
Reply #23 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 3:02pm

But now we have yet another appeaser and jelly-back as our prime minister.

Turnbull.. quote: "We cannot allow our national security or our national security policies to be dictated to by terrorists".

Translation: "We'll sit on our hands and do FA about upgrading our security initiatives as this might upset the Muslim Community and their Leaders".

That's precisely the subtext to what this daaaarling of the Chardonnay set is telling us.

Do we get the leaders we deserve?

I vote for the affirmative.

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Labor voter Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 302 Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #24 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 4:04pm This is why Turnbull is not the man for the job You watch the turkeys vote for him at the election
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Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job
Reply #25 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 4:11pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 5:06am:

This is why Turnbull is not the man for the job of protecting us against ISIS...

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Earlier, speaking in Germany before the terror attacks, Mr Turnbull yesterday distanced himself from Mr Abbott’s push suggesting a “political” solution to the crisis.

“One thing that is perfectly clear in Syria, that the solution will ultimately be a political one,” Mr Turnbull said.

“As you know Australia has made a very significant military commitment to the struggle against Daesh or the so-called Islamic State and we are working there with the Iraq government and of course with our allies the United States, the UK and others, but ultimately there needs to be a political solution to this absolutely catastrophic situation in Syria.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/former-pm-tony-abbott-warns-is-terrori...

A political solution in Syria? Turnbull is living in fantasyland if he believes that. ISIS don't care about politics - they only care about spreading their caliphate by any means necessary and only a military solution will stop them. Even that dictator Assad can't control them and he can be quite brutal when he wants to be. THAT is abundantly clear. Don't negotiate with terrorists. The only way to defeat ISIS is going to be with boots on the ground with soldiers killing terrorists. We might also need to reconsider taking any Muslims from Syria, as there is a good chance that at least some of them may be terrorists hiding among real refugees.

He's using words: using the words 'political solution' can equally mean 'military solution' without having to use the words 'military solution'.

It's called: 'the art of "using words"' Roll Eyes

Yes, tone(as in dynamics, not 'tony phony tryhard copper internet tones' Embarrassed

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Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job
Reply #27 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 4:15pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 3:02pm:

But now we have yet another appeaser and jelly-back as our prime minister.

Turnbull.. quote: "We cannot allow our national security or our national security policies to be dictated to by terrorists".

Translation: "We'll sit on our hands and do FA about upgrading our security initiatives as this might upset the Muslim Community and their Leaders".

That's precisely the subtext to what this daaaarling of the Chardonnay set is telling us.

Do we get the leaders we deserve?

I vote for the affirmative.

You vote for anarchic fear my friend: you are the yellow chicken who thinks he knows what cards anarchy deals becoz you have smoked too much crack and think your drug dealers hard core enough to take care of you in such a world Shocked

You must come down the dianella shops one day and take on one drunk c u nt who would smash your hole Cheesy

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #28 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 9:42pm Turnbull did ok. Time to raise the 3rd AIF.
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