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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 139586 Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #30 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:09pm "THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job ... " ... he's a member of the Liberal Government, who supports concentration camps, murder, rape, and child abuse.
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Reply #31 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:09pm:

"THIS is why Turnbull is the man for the job ... "

... he's a member of the Liberal Government, who supports helping people with refugee facilities, even though the muslim scumbags murder, rape, and child abuse.

What a heart.

He is a good man with a big heart, yes.

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Reply #32 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:12pm

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 6:18am:

Turncoat is another Rudd, he has not make a decent decision since he stabbed Abbott in the back, he is a very weak leader and god help us not that the real decisions need to be make in regard to terrorist. He is afraid to upset the UN and wants to be everyone friend and have high ratings in the polls. That will not help him when we are attacked and we will be, they know he is piss weak and will hit Australia sooner rather that later.

You are correct - it is only a matter of time before an extreme act carried out by a trained cadre will occur here. What we've had is a couple of ratbags killing a few defenceless civilians who had no means of defence - that is the essence of terrorism in one way - but only if it is organised.

I think a little tactical questioning is in order for a few of the suspects.................

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Reply #33 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:13pm

greggorytosspottery wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:09pm:

"THIS is why Turnbull is the man for the job ... "

... he's a member of the Liberal Government, who supports concentration camps, murder, rape, and child abuse.

I support those things too.

I'm not surprised.

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Reply #34 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:30pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:12pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 6:18am:

Turncoat is another Rudd, he has not make a decent decision since he stabbed Abbott in the back, he is a very weak leader and god help us not that the real decisions need to be make in regard to terrorist. He is afraid to upset the UN and wants to be everyone friend and have high ratings in the polls. That will not help him when we are attacked and we will be, they know he is piss weak and will hit Australia sooner rather that later.

You are correct - it is only a matter of time before an extreme act carried out by a trained cadre will occur here. What we've had is a couple of ratbags killing a few defenceless civilians who had no means of defence - that is the essence of terrorism in one way - but only if it is organised.

I think a little tactical questioning is in order for a few of the suspects.................

The modus seems to be of a slow wave.... why would they blow themselves up away from the stadiums massive crowd unless the purpose was just of 'hinting' volcanoes of jihad?

It's long term allright... it's pure ideology looking to encourage others Shocked

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Reply #35 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 5:16am

Malcolm is sticking steadfastly to his "political solution" line and in doing so, is coming across more and more like those who advocated appeasement prior to the outbreak of World War II. Maybe it'll take an attack on a similar scale to that which occurred in Paris for Turnbull to see the folly of his thinking. He seems to have forgotten the edict given by ISIS since day one - CONVERT OR DIE. They aren't interested in a political solution. Not in the least and the only way to defeat them will be militarily. Tony foresaw this, but was shouted down by the do-gooders for being racist and alarmist. Those same people now have bloodied egg on their faces.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #37 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 5:36am There are. People shoved in there for indefinite terms and treated foully, inhumanly. If anything will make us a target that is it, much more than our miniscule “effort” in Syria.
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Reply #38 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 6:14am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 5:16am:

Malcolm is sticking steadfastly to his "political solution" line and in doing so, is coming across more and more like those who advocated appeasement prior to the outbreak of World War II.

Maybe it'll take an attack on a similar scale to that which occurred in Paris for Turnbull to see the folly of his thinking. He seems to have forgotten the edict given by ISIS since day one - CONVERT OR DIE. They aren't interested in a political solution. Not in the least and the only way to defeat them will be militarily. Tony foresaw this, but was shouted down by the do-gooders for being racist and alarmist. Those same people now have bloodied egg on their faces.

Excellent Editorial, armchair.

You've got your finger on the pulse. You obviously don't take your authority from The Guardian or the ABC National Broadcaster.

Were there any streams of refugees fleeing Syria under the Assad regime?

Answer: No.

Putin is working on militarily defeating those groups which have created this diaspora of refugees from Syria. Police State dictatorships are the only political system that Muslims respect and understand. None of your namby-pamby, touchy-feely liberal democracies for them, thank you very much.

The happiest dogs are those with strict masters. It's the same with horses, as aquascoot will tell you.

And the term 'refugees' has lost all real meaning since they began arriving in the West in great number.

These are obviously not 'refugees' otherwise they would be returning (and be returned by Western governments) to their homelands when it was safe to do so.

The fraud occurs when these people are initially deemed to be genuine refugees, but then Western governments tear up these verifying documents and re-label them as 'immigrants' not to be shipped back to Middle Eastern countries when it's safe to do so.

Australian troops have been in Afghanistan for 13 years now, and if after all this time and lives lost it's still not safe for our Afghan refugees to return to their country ... then every last man wearing an Australian uniform over there should be repatriated back to Australia at the earliest opportunity.

13 years of military engagement and it's still not safe for Afghan 'refugees' to be returned to their homeland?

What utter BS.

Australian soldiers have been stomping around Afghanistan now for longer than WWI and WWII combined. It has become a farce and a sick joke.

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Reply #39 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 6:28am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 5:06am:

This is why Turnbull is not the man for the job of protecting us against ISIS...

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Earlier, speaking in Germany before the terror attacks, Mr Turnbull yesterday distanced himself from Mr Abbott’s push suggesting a “political” solution to the crisis.

“One thing that is perfectly clear in Syria, that the solution will ultimately be a political one,” Mr Turnbull said.

“As you know Australia has made a very significant military commitment to the struggle against Daesh or the so-called Islamic State and we are working there with the Iraq government and of course with our allies the United States, the UK and others, but ultimately there needs to be a political solution to this absolutely catastrophic situation in Syria.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/former-pm-tony-abbott-warns-is-terrori...

A political solution in Syria? Turnbull is living in fantasyland if he believes that. ISIS don't care about politics - they only care about spreading their caliphate by any means necessary and only a military solution will stop them. Even that dictator Assad can't control them and he can be quite brutal when he wants to be. THAT is abundantly clear. Don't negotiate with terrorists. The only way to defeat ISIS is going to be with boots on the ground with soldiers killing terrorists. We might also need to reconsider taking any Muslims from Syria, as there is a good chance that at least some of them may be terrorists hiding among real refugees.

hes a whimp.... tell me one thing he has said thats changes anything???>>.I bet the ISIS mob are falling around laughing at him and us...gutless really look how he fell in with krudd....then stabbed his own in the back.. yuck oh I will never ever vote for him hes weak as water...politically correct doesnt do it for me...

go and talk the talk about CLIMATE CHANGE and how much money OZ will be chucking at it...

I am sure everyone in France will lap it all up.. oops and Egypt and Lebanon...I am sure Climate Change is their top priority....

but it makes some think they care and are doing something that will STOP CLIMATE CHANGE....... Roll Eyes

dunno about you but I reckon that would make things 10 times worse.......dont say you werent warned...lolol

as long as these people fly planes all over the world...eat and drink top of the range fare....in a 5 star hotel...driven about in gas gurgling cars... whats to worry about they will fix it just by talking not doing..... Roll Eyes

I really do doubt the mentality of people who are sucked in by all that drivel.... does Malc have a waterfront home???> I have a feeling he does... lololol

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Reply #41 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 6:45am

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 6:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 5:16am:

Malcolm is sticking steadfastly to his "political solution" line and in doing so, is coming across more and more like those who advocated appeasement prior to the outbreak of World War II.

Maybe it'll take an attack on a similar scale to that which occurred in Paris for Turnbull to see the folly of his thinking. He seems to have forgotten the edict given by ISIS since day one - CONVERT OR DIE. They aren't interested in a political solution. Not in the least and the only way to defeat them will be militarily. Tony foresaw this, but was shouted down by the do-gooders for being racist and alarmist. Those same people now have bloodied egg on their faces.

Excellent Editorial, armchair.

You've got your finger on the pulse. You obviously don't take your authority from The Guardian or the ABC National Broadcaster.

Were there any streams of refugees fleeing Syria under the Assad regime?

Answer: No.

Putin is working on militarily defeating those groups which have created this diaspora of refugees from Syria. Police State dictatorships are the only political system that Muslims respect and understand. None of your namby-pamby, touchy-feely liberal democracies for them, thank you very much.

The happiest dogs are those with strict masters. It's the same with horses, as aquascoot will tell you.

herbert , i was thinking about this in horse terms yesterday.
Here on planet earth, which i call "reality", the laws of nature apply.

Now the alpha horse gets the very best of the pasture.(of the resources).
So if we see oil as a resource,then the natural state is that the alpha gets the oil.
So the USA and russia are behaving quite correctly and in accordance with natural laws by taking the oil.

Now if the alpha is feasting on his resources and some runty little flea infested brunby that was there first, grabs some barbed wire and comes and chucks it at the big stallion what does he do?

Do you really think he should just retreat?

Wink

He will give that runt the asssss-whipping of its life.
he will chase that horse from sight , over the hills and it wont show its face again.

Now to get to australia.

in a herd of maybe 40 horse, we are not the alpha. we might be the number 15 horse or there abouts.

Do we get involved in chasing off this runt who attacked the natural order of things and tried to destroy the harmony of the pasture.

unlikely.

the lead stallion (USA) and the lead mare (Mother Russia) (who have been estranged but are now in therapy) will do that for us.

we just go on munching away, we go up to the lead stallion (USA) and we probably groom him a bit....you see this with the higher horses, they will groom the lead horse, gentley nibble on his neck (its very sweet).

anyway, thats how i would call it.

if some of the horses (horses 5,6,7) say( germany, england and france) want to befriend the runts and let them into their pasture, they are being most foolish.

the alpha wont like it, the runts will trash the place and try to dominate them.
what we should do is let them behave in a weak way. as they fall down the peck order, we will rise and get better resources.

If they arent interested in defending themselves, probably best their genes were removed from the herd or the whole herd will become extinct. Wink

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Reply #42 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 7:30am

Speaking from Turkey where he is attending the G20 summit, the Prime Minister said there was no reason to believe Australia was unsafe.

Turnbull can only be described as an idiot and a fool to say such a thing.

How can anybody with a modicum of commonsense declare Australia to be safe from a terrorist attack when Paris has just lost 129 lives to Muslims with guns and bombs all shouting "Allahu Akbar!"?

It's bizarre.

'Silly' is too mild a word to describe Turnbull's head-in-the-clouds (head-in-the-sand?) statement that Australians need not fear going the same way as the 129 killed in Paris.

And then we have him arguing against preparing ourselves to be on an equal footing with the terrorists so as to be better able to meet the threat from them.

To wit:

"We cannot allow our national security or our national security policies to be dictated to by terrorists ... "

What?

Don't upgrade and refine our preparedness for facing this threat from Muslims who want to kill us? Is he for real?

And then Turnbull removed hard-man Dutton from the National Security Committee ... the ideal person to have authority in this area.

"Tasmanian Liberal Andrew Nikolic — who served for 31 years in the Army and as a senior Defence bureaucrat before entering Parliament — said Mr Dutton should be given a permanent seat at the Cabinet's powerful National Security Committee (NSC).

Mr Dutton was dumped from the NSC when Malcolm Turnbull became prime minister, though he said at the time he would be invited back on a temporary basis if the situation demanded it".

Turnbull is obviously seeking the approval of the North Shore latte-set 'progressives' who are his peer group.

Perhaps Julie Bishop might be better as PM?

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #43 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 7:34am It's sickening how these hard right islamophobes are salivating over a major terror attack in Australia. Grow up.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59347 Here Gender:	Re: THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Reply #44 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 7:39am THIS is why Turnbull is not the man for the job Turncoat is not the man for the job but this isn't the reason.
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