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Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack?
Reply #30 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 11:01am

____ wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:02am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 9:54am:

____ wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 9:26am:

The coalition is there bombing so so protect Israel from IS.

Oh Good Grief!

For a know it all, you have some very large areas of ignorance.

You really do have no idea. Israel is arming and supporting ISIS!

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Reply #31 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 11:01am

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:57am:

____ wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:32am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 10:21am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

the west should pull out of the Middle East and stay out. Leave them to sort themselves out. Sooner or later they'll have to learn to live together, or they'll all kill each other. Either way it will sort itself out (yeah, I know, it might not be for another 1000 years).

Our trying to sort them out is only feeding the frenzy.

This is not practical on account of the oil, the whole reason that the west became involved in the middle east in the first place was to ensure that the communists did not control the area and sabatoge the wests oil supply.

Now the mad muslims have replaced the communists and they are the reason the interference must continue, unless you want the mad muslims to control oil supplies of course, with the resulting chaos that would cause to western economies.

Another path would be to confront peak oil at the same time and diversify away from middle east oil for a green sustainable sourced solution.

So let us build that nice big nuclear generator, use it, among other things, to make biodiesel and desalinate water.

More nukes is an angry inflamed world. Yet will that shift the power base away from current power brokers and into every person's hands. Of course not.
More same old same old unworkable nuke rhetoric from JM

Nukes are expensive, dangerous, dirty, and worse, you can't have a nuke reactor in every car unless you want an increase in suicide bombings.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #32 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 11:04am So you are not sincere in wanting to boycott Saudi and moving away from oil? Not going to suggest the furphy of baseload solar again, are you? A modern plant is not like a Gen 1 plant. And I said use it to make bio diesel, lowering emissions. Why don’t the Greens want lower emissions?
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #33 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 11:15am Shifting away from Saudi oil to green sustainable renewables does not include dirty and dangerous nukes. Your path hands dirty bombs to terrorists. Stupidity with a capital S.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #34 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 11:23am So you are trying to say “baseload solar” without actually saying “baseload solar.” Get over this idiotic fear of nukes, read up a little bit on MODERN nuke plants and see they can give us emissions free baseload power for industry, desalinate water and create biodiesel.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #35 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 11:56am Radioactive uranium is not a replacement for oil. Can't see people happily putting uranium into their petrol tank ... can you? Now enough of your highjacking. Back to the topic otherwise will ignore your posts.
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Reply #36 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:01pm

Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack?

There is a high probability that we are on this list if they can do it.

Our main advantages are distance isolation and cost with the fact that their are more prominent targets that are easier.

It would be crazy to think that we are not at risk.

Us working as hard as we have been to destabilise and alienate our own Muslim community probably represents our greatest vulnerability and exposes us to the greatest risk.

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Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack?
Reply #37 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:05pm

____ wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 11:56am:

Radioactive uranium is not a replacement for oil.
Can't see people happily putting uranium into their petrol tank ... can you?

Now enough of your highjacking.
Back to the topic otherwise will ignore your posts.

You are making me a tad angry, Green10%, with your continual LIES. Stop lying! Stop changing the sense of what I said.

I think you have no idea how to boycott Saudi, are not genuine about it, typical empty Green rhetoric and empty gestures.

You are a fool!

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20518 Perth Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #38 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:08pm What is surprising is that our enemies are fighting back instead of dying in silence....Who would have thought???
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Reply #39 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:08pm

If we want to boycott Saudi we will have to be energy self reliant. Baseload solar is bulldust.

A decent sized modern nuke plant will give us the energy to make bio diesel, speed to switch to electric cars and allow us to close down the older, dirtier coal mines.

I cannot see any other way. Baseload solar is a slogan, need a plant or selection of plants totalling 500Km by 500Km. Not going to happen.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #40 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:15pm Saudi Arabia doesn't supply our electricity. It supplies oil. It's about finding a worldwide replacement for Saudi oil so to dry up funding for Wahhabism and so cut funds to global terrorism.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #41 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:18pm Not going to happen.
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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #42 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:33pm philperth2010 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:08pm: What is surprising is that our enemies are fighting back instead of dying in silence....Who would have thought??? Quite the revelation .
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack? Reply #43 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:46pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:18pm: Not going to happen. Sure ain't with nukes.
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Re: Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack?
Reply #44 - Nov 15^th, 2015 at 4:07pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 15^th, 2015 at 12:01pm:

Is Oz Bombing Syria, Worth A Paris Style Attack?

There is a high probability that we are on this list if they can do it.

Our main advantages are distance isolation and cost with the fact that their are more prominent targets that are easier.

It would be crazy to think that we are not at risk.

Us working as hard as we have been to destabilise and alienate our own Muslim community probably represents our greatest vulnerability and exposes us to the greatest risk.

Tony Abbott started that sh1t, at least Turnbull has resisted to follow that path, too late though, the young Muslim kids won't forget how much they're hated by the right of politics.

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