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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #45 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:48am

Soren wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Panther wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

Should we still allow 12,000 Middle East Refugees to live here amongst us?

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Should we immediately put that pledge on hold?

My Question to you:

If you are told that only one (1) slice of large pie has a deadly poison in it,
do you very cautiously eat from that pie, or do you throw it all out in the trash?

Yes but make sure they are non-Muslims. Let Muslim countries take the Muslim refugees.

Why not just send them the Pies ?

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #46 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:50am

Karnal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

double plus good wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:44am:

Karnal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:40am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:30am:

Panther wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

Should we still allow 12,000 Middle East Refugees to live here amongst us?

~~ OR ~~

Should we immediately put that pledge on hold?

My Question to you:

If you are told that only one (1) slice of large pie has a deadly poison in it,
do you very cautiously eat from that pie, or do you throw it all out in the trash?

You forgot to say if this '12,000' is mostly Christians.

No, all screened so far have been ethnic minority Muslims.

I heard that most of them will be ethnic minority Christians and a minority Shia Muslims.

You probably heard a lot of things. That's because Abbott's policy announcement was aimed at the Corey Bernardis in his party.

We're not screening for religion, we're asking for at-risk minority groups.

I swear you leftists want to see Australian people shot and blown up. Do we need more Muslims??

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #47 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:51am

Karnal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:35am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:03am:

we should import those female kurdish fighters battling ISIS and set them loose in australia to hunt down any ISIS supporters.

We should import them and convert them to our ways. Your Alpha horses have nothing on ISIS suicide bombers. If they're prepared to kill themselves for ISIS, imagine what they could do for your business.

Forget refugees, let's bring in ISIS themselves.

Karmal, you are not entirely wrong.
women are attracted to strong males who are "on mission' with their lives.
i would bet there would be many young girls in britain who would choose an ISIS fighter over a weak politician as a lover .
Women love confident men.
Our male leaders seem to have lost confidence.

Again, this is very odd.

Like a powerful stallion who has lost his nerve and now all the scrubs are running off with his mares.

All the good that you create will be attacked, (at least on planet earth which i call "reality").
If the west are not willing to defend it.
If france has many young muslim scrubs and they out breed the descendants of Napoleon and take over the herd......
all i can say is this is the natural state of things.
they were stronger then you.
you got what you deserved Wink

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #48 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:51am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:46am:

so far its been 50% Muslim...

and you only need a handful of the mad bastards..

It's time to put out the trash ... and not allow any further build-up of Muslims in our suburbs.

Collection Day should be Every Day ... taken straight to the airports where Airbus A380s can comfortably seat nearly half a thousand (554) devotees of Islam.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #49 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 12:06pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:51am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:46am:

so far its been 50% Muslim...

and you only need a handful of the mad bastards..

It's time to put out the trash ... and not allow any further build-up of Muslims in our suburbs.

Herbie, it doesn't really matter whether you think it's time or not. Our constitution is timeless. Australia can't legally discriminate under its treaty obligations on the basis of religion. It can't legally discriminate under its urban planning legislation to prevent "build up of Muslims in our suburbs". And it can't legally prevent people from joining a religion.

Menzies tried to get the constitution changed to ban the communist party. The majority of Australians voted against it. Banning a religion in Australia would be next to impossible, if the Liberal Party even wanted to do so.

You're going to need to change your definition of trash. Given the things I see put on the street for the council clean-up, most of it's not trash anyway.

Remember, Herbie, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

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Reply #50 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 1:08pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:45am:

Soren wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:37am:

Panther wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:51am:

Should we still allow 12,000 Middle East Refugees to live here amongst us?

~~ OR ~~

Should we immediately put that pledge on hold?

My Question to you:

If you are told that only one (1) slice of large pie has a deadly poison in it,
do you very cautiously eat from that pie, or do you throw it all out in the trash?

Yes but make sure they are non-Muslims. Let Muslim countries take the Muslim refugees.

Not that easy to do, old chap. We have a thing called the constitution. Any human rights lawyer worth his salt would be all over if Australia started weeding out the Muselmen.

But how would you do this anyway? It's easy enough to shave off a beard. Do you trick him with an off-the-cuff Allah Uakbar?

Please explain, old dear. Give us all a bit of tjurd.

Check the trouser snakes.

Also, Christians and other non-Muslim minorities are the most vulnerable, most in need of protection.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #51 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 1:12pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Yes.

Suspect part of the reason France / West was attacked was to try and turn Westerners against Syrians.

By turning away from assisting refugees, we are being manipulated by IS and so are losing the battle of ideas. Our values must stand firm otherwise we are already defeated.

You are a racist Green and unpatriotic

You hate Australians preferring to protect non-citizens

That is a complete misstatement. I don’t like Greens—they are based on a lie—but at least argue coherently.

Get the vaxx! 💉💉

If you don’t like abortions ignore them like you do school shootings.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #52 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:27am:

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Yes.

Suspect part of the reason France / West was attacked was to try and turn Westerners against Syrians.

By turning away from assisting refugees, we are being manipulated by IS and so are losing the battle of ideas. Our values must stand firm otherwise we are already defeated.

You are a racist Green and unpatriotic

You hate Australians preferring to protect non-citizens

Nazi Germany, Australian Style, here we come.
The majority of Jews Refugees are not baddies ... and we have protection mechanisms to weed out the odd one not suitable for Australia.

You don't even need a minority

Apparently you only need 2 as France found out

I'm pretty sure 2 is a minority, in this case.

Check with Longy, though. Year 9 maths, innit?

You don't read much, do you? The point he made was both accurate and powerful, but since your twin super powers are pedantry and cowardice, you missed it.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #53 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:30pm

Kytro wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:24am:

I wonder how Merkel is feeling today - stupid woman.

I suspect, like most people probably horrified and angry.

Harping on about refugees is pretty ordinary though, the number likely to be terrorists is tiny. Even if we believe ISIS and they have 4000 gunmen, that's less than 1% of the refugees.

The fact is that terrorism does not require large numbers of people, and can happen without large groups of refugees just as easily, as they have before, and likely will again.

ONLY 4000??????? this was done by SEVEN.

Perspective isnt a strong point for you - at least not yet.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #54 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:19am:

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Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?

Yes maybe we should increase the number to take pressure off of other countries and give them a better chance to correctly asses the people that they take.

wow....

I can't believe you said something quite as stupid as that and yes, it was incredibly stupid.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #55 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:33pm

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

Nazi Germany, Australian Style, here we come.
The majority of Refugees are not baddies ... and we have protection mechanisms to weed out the odd one not suitable for Australia.

One baddie is one baddie too many!

OK, everybody pay attention, Greenie is willing to put his life up as collateral, as a guarantee that none of the refugees, refugees he personally feels should be let into Australia, & he's willing to vouch for, will go Jihadi on Australians.

That right Greenie? Or are you just tryin' to sell us more of your racist, leftist, apologist, bull sh!t.

BTW.....who want's the pleasure of holding Greenie to account if one (1) goes bad?

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When government fears the People there is Freedom & Liberty!"

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #56 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:33pm

Kytro wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:32am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:23am:

I think my point is that governments (and populations) are usually SO risk averse nowadays.
the slightest risk and they dont want anything to do with it.
I'll bet the greens are trying to terrify people about where to put our "nuclear" waste dump (which will hold a tiny bit of medical waste) and which poses no threat at all.
But there clearly IS a threat (even if small) in importing syrians.
i think thats fairly evident.

I'm all for importing people, i say that all the time.

danish and german engineers
American IT specialists
South east asian business people.
I couldnt care if they are muslim or not.
If microsoft has an IT genius who is a muslim and wants to create a start-up. i'll pick him up at the airport, he can marry my daughter.

But we should have the right to be very selective
As consumers, shopping in the migrant market, we should be getting the best of the best.
Like breeding horses
cross the best with the best and hope for the best

Most people don't really understand risk.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be selective generally, and I'd hope humanitarian concerns come into it, but I am saying that won't really reduce the risk of a terrorist attack but not accepting refugees.

Why do you say that? None of our domestic terrorist attacks came from overseas, They were all domestic - and all refugees.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #57 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:37pm

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

Nazi Germany, Australian Style, here we come.
The majority of Refugees are not baddies ... and we have protection mechanisms to weed out the odd one not suitable for Australia.

One baddie is one baddie too many!

OK, everybody pay attention, Greenie is willing to put his life up as collateral, as a guarantee that none of the refugees, refugees he personally feels should be let into Australia, & he's willing to vouch for, will go Jihadi on Australians.

That right Greenie? Or are you just tryin' to sell us more of your racist, leftist, apologist, bull sh!t.

BTW.....who want's the pleasure of holding Greenie to account if one (1) goes bad?

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When government fears the People there is Freedom & Liberty!"

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #58 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:53pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

Why do you say that? None of our domestic terrorist attacks came from overseas, They were all domestic - and all refugees.

Australia hasn't faced a significant coordinated terrorist attack.

The London bombings were all people who born in, or had lived in the UK most of their lives.
September 11 was foreign nationals, mostly Saudi, all but one on tourist or Business Visas.

The point is that they can take advantage of multiple means and sympathisers there is nothing inherently risky about refugees.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #59 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:59pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:33am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:27am:

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Yes.

Suspect part of the reason France / West was attacked was to try and turn Westerners against Syrians.

By turning away from assisting refugees, we are being manipulated by IS and so are losing the battle of ideas. Our values must stand firm otherwise we are already defeated.

You are a racist Green and unpatriotic

You hate Australians preferring to protect non-citizens

Nazi Germany, Australian Style, here we come.
The majority of Jews Refugees are not baddies ... and we have protection mechanisms to weed out the odd one not suitable for Australia.

You don't even need a minority

Apparently you only need 2 as France found out

I'm pretty sure 2 is a minority, in this case.

Check with Longy, though. Year 9 maths, innit?

You don't read much, do you? The point he made was both accurate and powerful, but since your twin super powers are pedantry and cowardice, you missed it.

I think you've missed the point yourself, Maria. Longy was the board's maths monitor. His role was to fact check posters' numbers and assess their skill level.

Longy tried to extend this to their writing skills, but failed at this task. I notice you've made a number of contributions on grammar and spelling lately yourself, dear. You must have a lot of time on your hands now that you've retired.

Given you studied integral calculus in year 9, would you be interested in Longy's old maths job?

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