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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #60 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:05pm

Kytro wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:53pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

Why do you say that? None of our domestic terrorist attacks came from overseas, They were all domestic - and all refugees.

Australia hasn't faced a significant coordinated terrorist attack.

It did in the late 1970s, when the Hilton was bombed. The police were the main suspects on that one. They were never caught.

This decade, we've had one terrorist attack on Australian soil - the shooting of the police employee by the 15 year old Islamist. The Lindt Café siege was not judged to be a terror attack, as the Attorney General has confirmed.

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Reply #61 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:09pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 11:19am:

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Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?

Yes maybe we should increase the number to take pressure off of other countries and give them a better chance to correctly asses the people that they take.

wow....

I can't believe you said something quite as stupid as that and yes, it was incredibly stupid.

I bow to your obvious superior knowledge and skills at stupid, it is difficult to dispute a master.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47299 Gender:	Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris? Reply #62 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:36pm Oh yes, Longy knows stupidity, daily gives us examples. BTW Longy, Morgan polls are steady, so the decline will set in soon.
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Reply #63 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:39pm

Panther wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 3:33pm:

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

Nazi Germany, Australian Style, here we come.
The majority of Refugees are not baddies ... and we have protection mechanisms to weed out the odd one not suitable for Australia.

One baddie is one baddie too many!

OK, everybody pay attention, Greenie is willing to put his life up as collateral, as a guarantee that none of the refugees, refugees he personally feels should be let into Australia, & he's willing to vouch for, will go Jihadi on Australians.

That right Greenie? Or are you just tryin' to sell us more of your racist, leftist, apologist, bull sh!t.

BTW.....who want's the pleasure of holding Greenie to account if one (1) goes bad?

Sure. I will stand as collateral as long as in return, the hard right don't stir up trouble as they currently are.
Deal?

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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris? Reply #64 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:44pm Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:36pm: Oh yes, Longy knows stupidity, daily gives us examples. BTW Longy, Morgan polls are steady, so the decline will set in soon. You are wrong about Mariacostel being Longweekend. Have you picked someone who might be IQSRLOW yet?
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74677 Gender:	Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris? Reply #65 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 5:09pm Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris? when we stop destroying their homes you can argue that we don't let them in, until then bend over and take your medicine like a good boy.
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Reply #66 - Nov 16^th, 2015 at 5:30pm

Neferti wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:44pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 4:36pm:

Oh yes, Longy knows stupidity, daily gives us examples.

BTW Longy, Morgan polls are steady, so the decline will set in soon.

You are wrong about Mariacostel being Longweekend.

Have you picked someone who might be IQSRLOW yet? Roll Eyes

So both you and IQ find PA too boring?

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #67 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 9:24am

John Smith wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 5:09pm:

Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?

when we stop destroying their homes.........

That's the problem, they were out raping, beheading, & causing mayhem when we paid 'em a call!

What we need is a higher degree of success through better planning preceding elimination!

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Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #68 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 4:53pm

President Barrack Hussein Obama has personally pledged & committed that the United States will accept 100,000 Syrian Refugees.

Well, many US States ( at least 26 States of the 50 -- so far) think that might need seriously rethinking.

More than half of America's governors say Syrian refugees Not Welcome

➤➤ http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/16/world/paris-attacks-syrian-refugees-backlash/

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Reply #70 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 5:34am

Well, if we consider our national road toll each year, based on the general tone of this discussion, EVERY driver in the country should have their licenses revoked immediately.

After all, the risk is massive, it is clearly unmanageable and we have no effective way of testing for which drivers are fatal accidents waiting to find victims.

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Reply #72 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:53am

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 5:34am:

Well, if we consider our national road toll each year, based on the general tone of this discussion, EVERY driver in the country should have their licenses revoked immediately.

After all, the risk is massive, it is clearly unmanageable and we have no effective way of testing for which drivers are fatal accidents waiting to find victims.

There is no comparison between road accidents and heavily armed gangs of Muslim Fanatics creating mass murder from within the Muslim immigrant community.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #73 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:59am

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

____ wrote on Nov 16^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

Yes.

Suspect part of the reason France / West was attacked was to try and turn Westerners against Syrians.

By turning away from assisting refugees, we are being manipulated by IS and so are losing the battle of ideas. Our values must stand firm otherwise we are already defeated.

You are a racist Green and unpatriotic

You hate Australians preferring to protect non-citizens

Nazi Germany, Australian Style, here we come.
The majority of Jews Refugees are not baddies ... and we have protection mechanisms to weed out the odd one not suitable for Australia.

They have no valid documents - we know nothing about them.

We can't take the risk.

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Re: Should We Honor Refugee Pledge in Light of Paris?
Reply #74 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:02am

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 5:34am:

Well, if we consider our national road toll each year, based on the general tone of this discussion, EVERY driver in the country should have their licenses revoked immediately.

After all, the risk is massive, it is clearly unmanageable and we have no effective way of testing for which drivers are fatal accidents waiting to find victims.

We work very hard to reduce the risk on the roads.
We would work very hard to reduce many risks.
If we were to say that only 1 in 10,000 congolese had been exposed to ebola and we had visa applications from the congo, i dare say we would close the border to congolese due to unacceptable risk to the australian population.
And that would be closing the border to innocent people who really had done nothing wrong.
If it is true that we have 100 home grown fighters and several hundred sending money from australai, then it appears more then 1 in 10,000 would be the risk of importing some very nasty individuals.
I'm not saying to close our borders but there is a risk and to say there is no risk is just naive

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Question: Should We Honor Our Pledge to Invite 12,000 Refugees Here?
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Yes 10 (26.3%) No 26 (68.4%) Undecided 2 (5.3%) Total votes: 38 « Created by: Panther on: Nov 16^th, 2015 at 9:51am »