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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #15 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:00pm

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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho,

Rubbish. The planet can and will have 100% clean green cheap energy.

There speaks the indoctrinated mind.

If Australia needs a solar plant 500 x 500Kms how big will the installations America, France, Germany etc need?

Ludicrous. Nuclear is needed to supply baseload high intensity power to industry.

The bloody Greens even oppose more hydro. No wonder their support is shrinking.

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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #16 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:34pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Coal is in a long term, irreversible decline, cods.

I am happy that that is so, mining coal kills mine workers, burning coal kills thousands due to the particulate and heavy metal emissions from burning coal.

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho, do need nuclear to provide the energy intense power for industry.

This is largely a myth. Hydro can and does run aluminium smelters, and molten salt solar is capable too.

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Reply #17 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:40pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho,

Rubbish. The planet can and will have 100% clean green cheap energy.

If Australia needs a solar plant 500 x 500Kms .

That's your created figure. Based on?

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: If Coal Is Our Future Reply #18 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:41pm Maqqa wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 11:22am: Greens doesn't even know what the revenue from the Carbon Tax or ETS is to be used for You're a one trick troll monkey.
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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #19 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:44pm

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:40pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho,

Rubbish. The planet can and will have 100% clean green cheap energy.

If Australia needs a solar plant 500 x 500Kms .

That's your created figure. Based on?

My “created” figure? You are crapping on about 100% renewables yet you know nothing about how we can harvest that.

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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #20 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:50pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:40pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho,

Rubbish. The planet can and will have 100% clean green cheap energy.

If Australia needs a solar plant 500 x 500Kms .

That's your created figure. Based on?

My “created” figure? You are crapping on about 100% renewables yet you know nothing about how we can harvest that.

Running for them hills aye.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17898 Gender:	Re: If Coal Is Our Future Reply #21 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:52pm Kytro wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:34pm: Hydro can and does run aluminium smelters Any new Hydro projects in Australia recently?
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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #22 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:55pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho,

Rubbish. The planet can and will have 100% clean green cheap energy.

There speaks the indoctrinated mind.

If Australia needs a solar plant 500 x 500Kms

how big will the installations America, France, Germany etc need?

Ludicrous. Nuclear is needed to supply baseload high intensity power to industry.

The bloody Greens even oppose more hydro. No wonder their support is shrinking.

Have you got a source for those figures?

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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #23 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:56pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:44pm:

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:40pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 11:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 10:54am:

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho,

Rubbish. The planet can and will have 100% clean green cheap energy.

If Australia needs a solar plant 500 x 500Kms .

That's your created figure. Based on?

My “created” figure? You are crapping on about 100% renewables yet you know nothing about how we can harvest that.

Yes, you created that figure Cheesy

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: If Coal Is Our Future Reply #24 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:14pm The Photon Economy: Solar energy everywhere. David Mills (p1)
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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #25 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:20pm

lee wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:52pm:

Kytro wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:34pm:

Hydro can and does run aluminium smelters

Any new Hydro projects in Australia recently?

Are there any new Nuclear? The point was that renewable is capable of running high intensity requirements. It's not as tested as incumbent technology, but that was true of all power generation at some point.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: If Coal Is Our Future Reply #26 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:23pm "One thing I feel sure of... is that the human race must finally utilize direct sun power or revert to barbarism." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Shuman
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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #27 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:30pm

Kytro wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

lee wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:52pm:

Kytro wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:34pm:

Hydro can and does run aluminium smelters

Any new Hydro projects in Australia recently?

Are there any new Nuclear? The point was that renewable is capable of running high intensity requirements. It's not as tested as incumbent technology, but that was true of all power generation at some point.

The electric grid is in constant evolution one could almost say. It wasn't built in a day from off the shelf neatly boxed products put together with allen keys Cheesy

The power of incumbancy is real but change is needed at some point: the precious ideas of economics should be known to all liberal voters- the relevant one I am thinking of right now is that of 'diminishing returns' !

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Re: If Coal Is Our Future
Reply #29 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:46pm

Kytro wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

lee wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:52pm:

Kytro wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:34pm:

Hydro can and does run aluminium smelters

Any new Hydro projects in Australia recently?

Are there any new Nuclear? The point was that renewable is capable of running high intensity requirements. It's not as tested as incumbent technology, but that was true of all power generation at some point.

You're the one proposing the efficacy of Hydro. That will require the enviro's to allow building dams in suitable areas.

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