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Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:27am
 
Leigh Creek mine closure puts 250 out of work as SA outback town faces uncertain future


Alinta Energy's open-cut coal mine at outback Leigh Creek in South Australia is closing today, putting about 250 people out of work.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/leigh-creek-mine-closure-puts-250-out-of-w...


Why is the coal sector dying?
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Reply #1 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:29am
 
More countries switching to nuclear?

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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:44am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:29am:
More countries switching to nuclear?

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There is some new nuclear builds and uprates going on, but in 2014 over 60% of new builds were renewable worldwide.

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Reply #3 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:55am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:29am:
More countries switching to nuclear?

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France, the once pin up for nukes ... is heading to greens renewables rather than dirty nukes.

FRANCE is on the right path to generate 100% of its energy from renewable sources by 2050, according to a new report by energy body Ademe.

The study from the government body says an all-green electricity supply would not be much more expensive than a nuclear-renewable hybrid, around €119 per megawatt hour.

According to Ademe, wind power represents the biggest opportunity in France, potentially making up 63% of total energy use by 2050, followed by 17% solar panel, 13% hydroelectric and 7% geothermal.

The French government has set a 40% renewable energy target by 2030 in its latest energy transition law.

Ademe president Bruno Lechevin said the 100% scenario by 2050 mentioned in the report is achievable if technological progress brings production costs down, and assuming electricity consumption in France falls slightly through better efficiency.

The energy body warns, however, that to be achievable, supply and demand would have to be very closely monitored to ensure that the cheapest and most efficient source of energy is available at all times.
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http://www.connexionfrance.com/ademe-renewable-energy-2050-nuclear-power-17363-v...

Nuke, like coal, are dying sectors.
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Reply #4 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:58am
 
'According to a new Greenpeace analysis, in the first nine months of 2015 China’s central and provincial governments issued environmental approvals to 155 coal-fired power plants — that’s four per week.

The numbers associated with this prospective new fleet of plants are suitably astronomical.'

http://energydesk.greenpeace.org/2015/11/11/chinas-coal-bubble-155-new-overcapac...

Not in China.
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Reply #5 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:15am
 
lee wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:58am:
'According to a new Greenpeace analysis, in the first nine months of 2015 China’s central and provincial governments issued environmental approvals to 155 coal-fired power plants — that’s four per week.

The numbers associated with this prospective new fleet of plants are suitably astronomical.'

http://energydesk.greenpeace.org/2015/11/11/chinas-coal-bubble-155-new-overcapac...

Not in China.



While China’s coal consumption growth has slowed down, and fell in 2014, coal-fired power generating capacity continues to grow rapidly. This apparent contradiction has led some observers to conclude that China’s coal consumption growth is bound to resume.

But the evidence suggests otherwise. Instead the continued buildup of coal-fired power plants represents an investment bubble that will burst as overcapacity becomes too large to ignore.

One coal plant per week

If there is one factoid that every media consumer knows about energy in China, it must be that the country is “building one coal power plant per week”.

While coal-fired power generation capacity growth has slowed from the peak years – 2006 saw the equivalent of 1.5 large units added every week – the rate of coal-fired power plant additions and construction initiations in China is still breathtaking: 39 gigawatts were added in 2014, or three 1000MW units every four weeks, up from 36 gigawatts in 2013.

Coal plants built – but not used

At the same time, power generation from coal fell by approximately 1.6% in 2014, due to record increases in power generation from hydropower, wind, solar, nuclear and gas, along with slower power consumption growth.  Total coal consumption, including coal use outside of the power sector, fell by anywhere between 0.5-2.5% according to different preliminary statistics and estimates.

http://reneweconomy.com.au/2015/new-coal-power-plants-in-china-a-bubble-waiting-...
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Reply #6 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:18am
 
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Coal plants built – but not used



Yep, those Chinese - really obtuse.
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Reply #7 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:20am
 
____ wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Leigh Creek mine closure puts 250 out of work as SA outback town faces uncertain future


Alinta Energy's open-cut coal mine at outback Leigh Creek in South Australia is closing today, putting about 250 people out of work.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/leigh-creek-mine-closure-puts-250-out-of-w...


Why is the coal sector dying?



BECAUSE OF THE GREENS "PANIC"..

we will all die by 2013....if.. Angry Angry
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Reply #8 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:47am
 
lee wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:18am:
____ wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:15am:
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Yep, those Chinese - really obtuse.



Building white elephant coal plants keep the economy from falling into recession.
That's until the coal bubble bursts.
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Reply #9 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:49am
 
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:20am:
____ wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 9:27am:
Leigh Creek mine closure puts 250 out of work as SA outback town faces uncertain future


Alinta Energy's open-cut coal mine at outback Leigh Creek in South Australia is closing today, putting about 250 people out of work.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/leigh-creek-mine-closure-puts-250-out-of-w...


Why is the coal sector dying?



BECAUSE OF THE GREENS "PANIC"..

we will all die by 2013....if.. Angry Angry

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Reply #10 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:49am
 
____ wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:47am:
lee wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:18am:
____ wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:15am:
Coal plants built – but not used



Yep, those Chinese - really obtuse.



Building white elephant coal plants keep the economy from falling into recession.
That's until the coal bubble bursts.




hasnt it already  burst I mean...I thought you guys had managed to ruin that business already... well in OZ at any rate.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:54am
 
Coal is in a long term, irreversible decline, cods.

I am happy that that is so, mining coal kills mine workers, burning coal kills thousands due to the particulate and heavy metal emissions from burning coal.

Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho, do need nuclear to provide the energy intense power for industry.
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Reply #12 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 11:07am
 
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:49am:
____ wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:47am:
lee wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:18am:
____ wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:15am:
Coal plants built – but not used



Yep, those Chinese - really obtuse.



Building white elephant coal plants keep the economy from falling into recession.
That's until the coal bubble bursts.




hasnt it already  burst I mean...I thought you guys had managed to ruin that business already... well in OZ at any rate.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



The repeal of the carbon tax saved the coal industry ... remember?
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Reply #13 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 11:10am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17th, 2015 at 10:54am:
Renewables cannot give 100% of a country’s energy tho,




Rubbish. The planet can and will have 100% clean green cheap energy.

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Reply #14 - Nov 17th, 2015 at 11:22am
 
Greens doesn't even know what the revenue from the Carbon Tax or ETS is to be used for
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