Australian Politics Forum - Ashby/Brough and even Pyne

Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96815	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #15 - Nov 17^th, 2015 at 11:10pm polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 9:58pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 17^th, 2015 at 1:23pm: ohh, poor Ashby .... is everyone picking on him again? Apparently he's working for Pauline Hanson these days. He's all class that kid. His sphincter will be twitching.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38870 Gender:	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #16 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:23pm It sure will. It has been revealed that Brough has now been raided (Tuesday) as has Ashby's confidente at the time, Karen Doane. Link.
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Reply #17 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:23pm:

It sure will. It has been revealed that Brough has now been raided (Tuesday) as has Ashby's confidente at the time, Karen Doane.

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So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary. His reason for this was he suspected Slipper of committing a crime.

All this, of course, is the job of police. What Brough hasn't said is what he did with those diary copies. I'm not sure if this is a crime in itself, but it points to a political vendetta that could well have involved crime. There is evidence here of a political conspiracy to bring down the Speaker. Some of this is politics-as-usual, garden-variety dark arts. Some of it, however, reeks of criminality. And none of it looks good for the Libs.

Brough and Turnbull are friends. It would be better for all if Brough stood down until this blows over. If it ever does, like Sinodinos, Brough could return.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75356 Gender:	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #18 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm: So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary. yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.
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Reply #19 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:54pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary.

yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.

Is that actually a crime?

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Reply #20 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:03pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary.

yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.

Is that actually a crime?

conspiracy to commit a crime? Incitement? He conspired with Asby to steal Slipper diary didn't he?

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #21 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:21pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary.

yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.

Is that actually a crime?

conspiracy to commit a crime? Incitement? He conspired with Asby to steal Slipper diary didn't he?

I would have thought the Speaker's diary is a public document anyway. As for conspiracy or incitement, it's a bit wimpy, don't you think?

These sort of things are leaked daily. We've got enough evidence to say that Ashby was Brough's mole in the Speaker's office, but there's not much evidence on any real criminal activity.

The only way this will become a half decent political scandal is if something seriously illegal is found. Most of this is old news. At any other time - Rudd, Gillard, Abbott - this story would be far more newsworthy. Turnbull, however, has managed to get sport and terrorism back on the front page again. People are over the last few years of political intrigue. The PM is no longer enemy number one - yet.

Brough is going to need something quite nasty pinned on him to stand down. This is no Choppergate. The government's doing well in the polls.

It's not as much fun as having the grown-ups back in charge, is it?

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Reply #22 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:22pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary.

yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.

Is that actually a crime?

conspiracy to commit a crime? Incitement? He conspired with Asby to steal Slipper diary didn't he?

All of that and add.....receiving stolen property, party to the original theft.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38870 Gender:	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #23 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:24pm Quote: I would have thought the Speaker's diary is a public document anyway.. Never heard of that. Can you clarify?
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Reply #24 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:26pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary.

yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.

Is that actually a crime?

conspiracy to commit a crime? Incitement? He conspired with Asby to steal Slipper diary didn't he?

All of that and add.....receiving stolen property, party to the original theft.

I can't see how it's stolen if Ashby's in charge of it. You could argue this in court, of course, but it's a nothing charge.

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Reply #25 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:28pm

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary.

yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.

Is that actually a crime?

conspiracy to commit a crime? Incitement? He conspired with Asby to steal Slipper diary didn't he?

All of that and add.....receiving stolen property, party to the original theft.

I can't see how it's stolen if Ashby's in charge of it. You could argue this in court, of course, but it's a nothing charge.

'My Office Manager' is in charge of the petty cash tin in my office, but that does not mean they have a lawful right to steal the cash.

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Reply #26 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:43pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:28pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:26pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:22pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:03pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:40pm:

So Brough admitted he asked Ashby to make copies of Slipper's diary.

yep ... live and on national television ... there is no question he is guilty. Now Turncoat needs to do the right thing and sack him.

Is that actually a crime?

conspiracy to commit a crime? Incitement? He conspired with Asby to steal Slipper diary didn't he?

All of that and add.....receiving stolen property, party to the original theft.

I can't see how it's stolen if Ashby's in charge of it. You could argue this in court, of course, but it's a nothing charge.

'My Office Manager' is in charge of the petty cash tin in my office, but that does not mean they have a lawful right to steal the cash.

Photocopying a diary?

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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16670 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #27 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:46pm Karnal wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:43pm: Photocopying a diary? Arrr! He be a pirate!
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38870 Gender:	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #28 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 1:50pm To photocopy is to steal the content of the diary.......asportation....is a sneaky legal term, and an element of the offence of 'stealing.'
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #29 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 2:20pm maybe COPYRIGHT is involved.. just sayin..yaaaaaaaaaaaawn
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