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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #90 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:28am Other than Brough - who else can they attack? Attack Turnbull who is on 65% preferred PM?
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Reply #91 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:31am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:28am:

Other than Brough - who else can they attack?

Attack Turnbull who is on 65% preferred PM?

One step at a time. After Brough (if there is time before the Christmas Break) they will go after at least Wyatt Roy, then Pyne, and then Turnbull.......all arising out the Ashby/Slipper farce.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #92 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:33am Aussie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:15am: QT is going to be a ripper today. Pyne used the 'gag' this morning to stifle a censure motion, but there is nothing he can do to prevent Labor grilling Brough in QT this afternoon. A 'must watch.' Link. Can't the PM issue standing orders and gag QT whenever he wants?
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Reply #93 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:37am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:28am:

Other than Brough - who else can they attack?

Attack Turnbull who is on 65% preferred PM?

lol - in case you didn't notice, attacking Brough *IS* a direct attack against the PM, they point this out very specifically by referencing the PM's judgment, who appointed this dodgy guy to, of all positions, special minister of state.

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Reply #95 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:38am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:33am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:15am:

QT is going to be a ripper today. Pyne used the 'gag' this morning to stifle a censure motion, but there is nothing he can do to prevent Labor grilling Brough in QT this afternoon. A 'must watch.'

Link.

Can't the PM issue standing orders and gag QT whenever he wants?

Dunno. I do know (from watching pretty often) that QT ends with the PM advising the Speaker of that, but I have never seen it cut short by the PM (gagged.)

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Ashby/Brough and even Pyne Reply #96 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:39am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:37am: Maqqa wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:28am: Other than Brough - who else can they attack? Attack Turnbull who is on 65% preferred PM? 65%?! Bloody hell he is doing a super job.... Most people are just delirious about the fact Abott is no longer PM.
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Reply #97 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:43am

Aussie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:38am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:33am:

Aussie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:15am:

QT is going to be a ripper today. Pyne used the 'gag' this morning to stifle a censure motion, but there is nothing he can do to prevent Labor grilling Brough in QT this afternoon. A 'must watch.'

Link.

Can't the PM issue standing orders and gag QT whenever he wants?

Dunno. I do know (from watching pretty often) that QT ends with the PM advising the Speaker of that, but I have never seen it cut short by the PM (gagged.)

I have seen it cut short, ostensibly when the opposition refuses to move on from a particular line of questioning, or if they bring forward a censure motion which is defeated.

I assume the PM is obliged to indulge the opposition for some minimum period, and in any case its not a good look for the PM to be seen to be gagging debate. So no doubt we'll see at least some grilling of Brough today.

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Reply #98 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 11:12am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:37am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 10:28am:

Other than Brough - who else can they attack?

Attack Turnbull who is on 65% preferred PM?

lol - in case you didn't notice, attacking Brough *IS* a direct attack against the PM, they point this out very specifically by referencing the PM's judgment, who appointed this dodgy guy to, of all positions, special minister of state.

And how is that working out for Labor?

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Reply #99 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 11:25am

Poor Mal - it was only a simple error in interpretation... just business:-

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30250259/mal-brough-apology-for-60-min-confusion/

"Special Minister of State Mal Brough has apologised to parliament for "unwittingly" confusing the public over an interview he gave to 60 Minutes about the Ashby-Slipper affair.

But Mr Brough maintains he answered a question, without clarifying precisely what part he was responding to, when he admitted to asking James Ashby to obtain copies of his former boss Peter Slipper's diary.

"I have taken the opportunity to review the tape and transcript, and apologise to the House if my statement yesterday unwittingly added to the confusion rather than clarifying the matter," he said on Wednesday."

YTS do we need a 'special minister of state? Aren't there enough snouts in the trough already and doing buggar all?

Kinda reminds me of JFK (the movie)

"I find your story hard to believe, Dave."

"Oh, yeah? Which part?"

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Reply #101 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 11:48am

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But Mr Brough maintains he answered a question, without clarifying precisely what part he was responding to, when he admitted to asking James Ashby to obtain copies of his former boss Peter Slipper's diary.

There was only one part of the question. There was only one question put to him by Hayes, and that is as clear as a bell.

That sort of obviously slippery shifty bullshit just makes it all the worse.

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Reply #102 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 12:07pm

So if I'm getting the straight...

firstly, getting Ashby to procure the diary behind Slipper's back is a crime - right?

And this is what Brough appears to admit to in the 60 minutes interview

So, presumably realising the gravity of this admission, Brough then claims his answer "yes I did" wasn't in reference to whether he asked Ashby to procure said diary.

Then, after 60 minutes chimes in and points out, actually thats exactly the question he said "Yes I did" to, Brough appears to be apologising for his original claim about the interview...which presumably means an admission that he did indeed admit he asked for Ashby for the diary? Which of course completely contradicts Ashby himself claiming Brough "never never ever ever" asked him for it...

God, I'm confused now - not about what happened, its very clear what Brough did - but confused about what defense Brough is actually attempting here. It seems he doesn't want to admit either that he committed a crime, or that he misled parliament - yet it is impossible that he did neither. So presumably he is deliberately traversing his way somewhere between the two.

Its really quite incredible - this is Bronwyn Bishopesque

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Reply #103 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 1:34pm

QT on now. Here is a doozy:

Liz Hayes asks Brough:

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'Um why then also did you um assist, seek well, did you ask James Ashby to procure um copies of Peter Slipper's diary for for you?'

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Mr Brough: 'Yes I did'.

(- See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/12/02/brough-apologises-for--confusion-0.html#sthash.nCuNb3eJ.dpuf)

Dreyfus asks Brough in QT just now:

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Did you ask James Ashby to procure um copies of Peter Slipper's diary for for you?

Brough:

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No.

Hahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

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Reply #104 - Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 2:05pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2015 at 1:34pm:

QT on now. Here is a doozy:

Liz Hayes asks Brough:

Quote:

'Um why then also did you um assist, seek well, did you ask James Ashby to procure um copies of Peter Slipper's diary for for you?'

Quote:

Mr Brough: 'Yes I did'.

(- See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/12/02/brough-apologises-for--confusion-0.html#sthash.nCuNb3eJ.dpuf)

Dreyfus asks Brough in QT just now:

Quote:

Did you ask James Ashby to procure um copies of Peter Slipper's diary for for you?

Brough:

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No.

Hahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!

Right, then apparently he is opting for the least tenable defense. Channel 9 have verified what the whole question was, there simply was no "other part" of the question, or whatever nonsense he is trying to concoct now. So we now have 2 Brough bare-faced lies: 1. denying asking Ashby for the Diary and 2. lying about what Liz Hayes asked him

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