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Re: Tarek Fatah-Root cause of Islamic terror
Reply #15 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:50pm
 
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:47pm:
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:45pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:21pm:
Yadda wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:06pm:
I [along with many others], am asking you to defend your position, AND YOUR FAITH, publicly,     ....AND, WITH PLAIN AND SIMPLE, REASON AND LOGIC - WITHOUT ANY OBFUSCATION.


what a joke Yadda.

Why are you asking? To what possible end?

You are not interested in hearing my point of view, you only want to use this space to air your hatred for Islam. Thats fine of course, but please don't insult both our intelligence by pretending you have any interest in hearing me justify my beliefs or hearing the defense of Islam.

I thought you would at least have the honesty to admit this, but it seems I was wrong.


Yadda has only posted truth and facts and all you do is attack and hate and make excuses for islamic atrocities. You aren't interested in finding out how islam is all bullshit clearly you are a mindless drone. A slave to satan.



Slave to Satan eh? That's a new one.


Hanky ?, your dribbling from your bottom lip troll.
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Re: Tarek Fatah-Root cause of Islamic terror
Reply #16 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:51pm
 
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:50pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:47pm:
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:45pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:21pm:
Yadda wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:06pm:
I [along with many others], am asking you to defend your position, AND YOUR FAITH, publicly,     ....AND, WITH PLAIN AND SIMPLE, REASON AND LOGIC - WITHOUT ANY OBFUSCATION.


what a joke Yadda.

Why are you asking? To what possible end?

You are not interested in hearing my point of view, you only want to use this space to air your hatred for Islam. Thats fine of course, but please don't insult both our intelligence by pretending you have any interest in hearing me justify my beliefs or hearing the defense of Islam.

I thought you would at least have the honesty to admit this, but it seems I was wrong.


Yadda has only posted truth and facts and all you do is attack and hate and make excuses for islamic atrocities. You aren't interested in finding out how islam is all bullshit clearly you are a mindless drone. A slave to satan.



Slave to Satan eh? That's a new one.


Hanky ?, your dribbling from your bottom lip troll.



Slave to Satan eh?

From my religious upbringing, you are more a "slave to Satan" than Gandalf.
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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
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Re: Tarek Fatah-Root cause of Islamic terror
Reply #17 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:52pm
 
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:50pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:47pm:
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:45pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:21pm:
Yadda wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:06pm:
I [along with many others], am asking you to defend your position, AND YOUR FAITH, publicly,     ....AND, WITH PLAIN AND SIMPLE, REASON AND LOGIC - WITHOUT ANY OBFUSCATION.


what a joke Yadda.

Why are you asking? To what possible end?

You are not interested in hearing my point of view, you only want to use this space to air your hatred for Islam. Thats fine of course, but please don't insult both our intelligence by pretending you have any interest in hearing me justify my beliefs or hearing the defense of Islam.

I thought you would at least have the honesty to admit this, but it seems I was wrong.


Yadda has only posted truth and facts and all you do is attack and hate and make excuses for islamic atrocities. You aren't interested in finding out how islam is all bullshit clearly you are a mindless drone. A slave to satan.



Slave to Satan eh? That's a new one.


Hanky ?, your dribbling from your bottom lip troll.



Slave to Satan eh?

From my religious upbringing, you are more a "slave to Satan" than Gandalf.


From your religious upbringing you wouldn't know either way clearly troll.
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Re: Tarek Fatah-Root cause of Islamic terror
Reply #18 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:54pm
 
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:52pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:50pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:47pm:
Bazza wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:45pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:21pm:
Yadda wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 9:06pm:
I [along with many others], am asking you to defend your position, AND YOUR FAITH, publicly,     ....AND, WITH PLAIN AND SIMPLE, REASON AND LOGIC - WITHOUT ANY OBFUSCATION.


what a joke Yadda.

Why are you asking? To what possible end?

You are not interested in hearing my point of view, you only want to use this space to air your hatred for Islam. Thats fine of course, but please don't insult both our intelligence by pretending you have any interest in hearing me justify my beliefs or hearing the defense of Islam.

I thought you would at least have the honesty to admit this, but it seems I was wrong.


Yadda has only posted truth and facts and all you do is attack and hate and make excuses for islamic atrocities. You aren't interested in finding out how islam is all bullshit clearly you are a mindless drone. A slave to satan.



Slave to Satan eh? That's a new one.


Hanky ?, your dribbling from your bottom lip troll.



Slave to Satan eh?

From my religious upbringing, you are more a "slave to Satan" than Gandalf.


From your religious upbringing you wouldn't know either way clearly troll.



Yes i do. You are hateful. You only come here to spread disunity and hatred.

The work of Satan indeed.
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Re: Tarek Fatah-Root cause of Islamic terror
Reply #19 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:59pm
 
Bazza's left the building.

But fear not, I am confident his legacy will live on in a completely different, totally unrelated account - possibly using a hugely funny variant of mothra's name.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #20 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:04pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 10:59pm:
Bazza's left the building.

But fear not, I am confident his legacy will live on in a completely different, totally unrelated account - possibly using a hugely funny variant of mothra's name.



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Yes i suspect i am up for an impersonation. Itr's been brewing. RNothra. rnothra. It's an old yahoo trick.
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Re: Tarek Fatah-Root cause of Islamic terror
Reply #21 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:06pm
 
islam is the cause of islamic terrorists
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Modern Classic Right Wing
 
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Reply #22 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:06pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:06pm:
islam is the cause of islamic terrorists




No. It isn't.
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Reply #23 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:14pm
 

"Yes it is!"


"No. It isn't!"





"Yes it is!"


"No. It isn't!"






"Yes it is!"


"No. It isn't!"






"Yes it is!"


"No. It isn't!"






I'm glad we got all of that out of the way.



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #24 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:15pm
 
sprints got his intellectual cap on tonight.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #25 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:28pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:15pm:
sprints got his intellectual cap on tonight.


What i have noticed is that it is the Christians on here that are the most hateful.

It's not the religion i was raised with.
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Reply #26 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:44pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 7:36pm:
Yadda wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
He a moslem,      you are oppressing him.

And he refuses to respond to your 'insinuations' as to what he may believe, or, not believe.

He a moslem.


Both Baron and you are agents of hate. Your "discussions" with me are done with only one purpose in mind - to try and embarrass and shame me. You have no interest whatsoever in understanding my point of view.

And now you sit here and scoff at me for being defensive when I see you trying to corner me for petty point scoring.

At least admit one thing Yadda, as I believe you are at heart and honest person: you have no interest whatsoever in trying to understand my point of view or the point of view of muslims - the only thing you are interested in these debates is how you can use them to mock and ridicule muslims - right?


LOL
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Muslims are murdering Psychopaths, just look at France, Never Trust a Mussey, Ever.
 
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Reply #27 - Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:47pm
 
wiseguy wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 11:44pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 7:36pm:
Yadda wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
He a moslem,      you are oppressing him.

And he refuses to respond to your 'insinuations' as to what he may believe, or, not believe.

He a moslem.


Both Baron and you are agents of hate. Your "discussions" with me are done with only one purpose in mind - to try and embarrass and shame me. You have no interest whatsoever in understanding my point of view.

And now you sit here and scoff at me for being defensive when I see you trying to corner me for petty point scoring.

At least admit one thing Yadda, as I believe you are at heart and honest person: you have no interest whatsoever in trying to understand my point of view or the point of view of muslims - the only thing you are interested in these debates is how you can use them to mock and ridicule muslims - right?


LOL



Why is that funny? Seems pretty spot on to me.
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Reply #28 - Nov 20th, 2015 at 10:56am
 

On the Need to Think Clearly
Reflections on Paris
November 15, 2015

One has to pity—a little—politicians obliged to react publicly to events such as those on November 13 in Paris. They can’t pass over them in silence: but what can they say that does not sound banal, hollow, and obvious? They can only get it wrong, not right.

That does not excuse inexactitude and evasion, however. French president François Hollande called the attacks cowardly, but if there was one thing the attackers were not (alas, if only they had been), it was cowardly. They were evil, their ideas were deeply stupid, and they were brutal: but a man who knows that he is going to die in committing an act, no matter how atrocious, is not a coward. With the accuracy of a drone, the president homed in on the one vice that the attackers did not manifest. This establishes that bravery is not by itself a virtue, that in order for it to be a virtue it has to be exercised in pursuit of a worthwhile goal. To quote an eminent countryman of the president, Pascal: Travaillons, donc, à bien penser: voilà le principe de la morale.
Let us labor, then, to think clearly: that is the principle of morality.


President Obama was not much better. He made reference in his statement to “the values we all share.” Either he was using the word “we” in some coded fashion, in spite of having just referred to the whole of humanity, or he failed to notice that the attacks were the direct consequence of the obvious fact that we—that is to say the whole of humanity—do not share the same values. If we shared the same values, politics would be reduced to arguments about administration.

Politicians are not the only ones, however, to utter worse than clichés (which have at least the merit of being true): the Irish pop star turned guru, Bono, said that the events on November 13 were an attack on music. Mr. Bono might as well have said that this was an attack on restaurants, or even on Cambodian cuisine, or for that matter on football. Apparently, in his view, if only the French government outlawed music, the terrorists would achieve their ends and would therefore desist from future attacks.

On the night of the events, I followed the coverage in the Guardian, the British liberal newspaper whose website is one of the most popular of its type in the world. When the acknowledged toll of the attacks was still “only” 40, the paper published an article saying, en passant, that the vast majority of Muslims abhorred these attacks. I do not exclude the possibility that this is so, but we do not know, and can probably never know, that it is so: for if Queen Elizabeth had “no desire to make windows into men’s souls,” we have no ability to do so, certainly on this question. But the Guardian wanted it to be so, and therefore, to its own satisfaction, it was so. This is a kind of magical thinking that persists in a supremely scientific age, and is dangerous because completely ineffective.

If ever there were a time to keep Pascal’s words in mind, this is it.
http://www.city-journal.org/2015/eon1115td.html

Evasiveness is the principal political response to Islamic terrorism, from Obama, Hollande through all the imams and Grand Miff-tis to Turnbull and Merkel and the rest of them, all the way to our lefty progs and fellow-travellers. Their venom is reserved exclusively for those who are not prepared to go along with the snivelling evasions.Nothing infuriates lefty prog herds more than disagreement.


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Reply #29 - Nov 20th, 2015 at 11:21am
 
Soren wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 10:56am:
Evasiveness is the principal political response to Islamic terrorism, from Obama, Hollande through all the imams and Grand Miff-tis to Turnbull and Merkel and the rest of them, all the way to our lefty progs and fellow-travellers. Their venom is reserved exclusively for those who are not prepared to go along with the snivelling evasions.Nothing infuriates lefty prog herds more than disagreement.


What do you think Soren, is it evasive of me to "snivel" against someone who posts a story about a group of thugs that beat up a shop owner and his wife in Scotland for something that happened in France, with the heading "entirely justified"?

A straight answer, if you would please.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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