Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:59am:



Scoot has at least 3 pony's but no tricks.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:29am:


no dear that was gillard CARBON TAX we were not going to get.. she sent our steel making  off shore...and then systematically closing the mines one after the other...or are you still turning that blind eye you have to anything your mob did??

Still remains to be seen if Bluescope will survive. That depends on demand for steel. Not looking good.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:09am:



I know monk is a sceptic, but buying a farm and teaching myself to teach horses has taught me lessons that are very applicable to the workplace.

be too soft and both(horses and workers) dont see you as giving them something, they just feel entitled.
be too firm and you just causing anxiety which is dangerous
reward the tiniest, tiniest improvement.
always be confident, to be otherwise is dangerous.
you have to have total focus, a moments mindless teaching can lead to big set backs.
if you ask for something, ask in the lightest possible way, but be willing to turn up the heat to absolute maximum until you get the result,
if you ask and dont follow through , you are making the problem much worse and you will be creating a stubborn resistance.
the more training you put into them, the more valuable they become
always reward the valuable horses first, they notice these things

i'm going to miss Oprah but for 200 dollars i would consider it value at twice the price

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 5:16am:


You might want to rethink that statement as it is quite silly.  If you are talking about employers in GENERAL you have a basic point, but in the context of a steel worker, no relationship at all.

Phemanderac wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 5:48am:


Bit simplistic isn't it? After all, car manufacturing has retreated GLOBALLY and many countries are in our situation of no longer having this industry on shore.  Is it simply possible that it is such a competitive and demanding industry that only a few manufacturers can stay afloat and they have to choose the most economical locations?

If Australians really wanted a local car industry they would have bought local cars - but they didn't.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:32am:


Thats the old catch 22 grapples.

after the factory fire in bangladesh, well meaning lefties ran a facebook campaign to make guess jeans shut the factory and stop exploiting lowly paid workers.

This guess duly did, as they werent going to go against western social media.

a follow up showed the workers had now gone from low standard or living to abject poverty and were begging for guess to come back.

People talk about 3rd world wages as exploitation, but that is not how the third world see them .
i knew the australian guy who built the pool for the chinese olympics.
he had his workers in a compound surrounded by fences....not because they were slave labour, but because other workers were trying to get IN to get in on these fantastic wages ($3 an hour back then ).

and guess what, western business has been the absolute best thing to ever hit the thrid world.
western business has dragged more people out of poverty then the the UN could ever hope to.

Free enterprise is the way forward.

It isnt going to be easy for australia but it is now impossible to ask that our lives were made easier. It is only possible to ask that we were made better