Kytro wrote on Nov 18
th, 2015 at 1:12pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 18
th, 2015 at 8:11am:
Kytro wrote on Nov 18
th, 2015 at 7:58am:
Swagman wrote on Nov 17
th, 2015 at 9:37pm:
Workers taking a pay cut to allow business to be more competitive and save jobs. What's the union world coming to? Taking a dose of common sense I guess?
The same concept as eliminating penalty rates.
A course of action for a specific company in a particular industry in no way means it's the ideal position for all or even most workers to take. There is also no assurance that it will save jobs in the long term if the company fortunes don't improve.
There is little evidence that penalty rates are costing a significant number of jobs, simply because a business is doing badly and the employees are willing take a hit to see if it can survive is in no way indicative that penalty rates a a bad thing.
one of the great mistakes is to think that all workers are the same.
some workers are 2 , 3 , 4 x as productive as other workers.
the other great myth is that you can train workers to be great.
great workers are usually found, not trained.
you find them great.
if youre spending a lot of time training someone, you probably found the wrong person .
as an employer, i cant understand, this fixed wage , over regulated system.
someone might be worth $2000 a week to the business, someone might be worth $200 a week to the business.
could you imagine the cowboys being told all players get 200 k a year.
JT is clearly worth 800 k,
a rookie might be worth 60 k.
common sense tells us that this is just how a free enterprise should operate.
it does my head in that everyone thinks a fixed rate is good for anybody.
small business people start small businesses for this exact reason.
to break out of this scrub, chode, durrrrrrrr mind set
Even in this regulated system, employers cheat employees. Without regulation it would be even worse. When there is an oversupply of low-skilled workers it would drive the price down significantly bellow the minimum wage.
In most industries there are levels where pay isn't set, it is usually set for low skilled jobs where variation in ability has a more limited impact.
Basically, regulation exists because free enterprise can't be trusted.
Kyrto when i look at those guys who are losing their jobs after years of work i see people who are scared and look tired.
They basicly have been sold a lemon.
Its actually a very similar look to what i see when i look at a guy who is getting divorced after a long marriage.
society sells these guys a path which is just not realistic.
if you are a good worker or a good husband, thats simply no gaurantee that life is going to work out well for you. its a myth of the group think of society.
every day in the workplace, every day in your relationships, you gotta bring your A game, you got to be growing, you got to be adapting, you got to be improving.
its sad when they say "ive worked here for 30 years (doing the same job) and how am i going to get another job......
i was a good husband for 30 years and how am i going to get another wife.
In all things, work or relationships, DO NOT ASK what am i getting out of this (be that pay or sex and meals and compnaionship) ask WHAT AM I BECOMING.
most people are beaten down, you have to keep growing, you have to WORK HARDER ON YOURSELF THEN YOU WOULD EVER WORK ON YOUR JOB.
this story is going to become worse and worse and worse as the security (in work and relationships) get worse.
You know your average small business person is always scared and always tired but he learns to live with that, embrace it and uses it as a spur to personal improvement.
If you think you can just learn a job at a steel company and then go into Durrrrrrr mode for 40 years, i'm sorry, society has sold you a pup.
Welcome to the real world, now pick yourself up and learn the lessons you should have been learning every moment of every day for the last 40 years
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