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Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov
Reply #15 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:24am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:13am:
Maybe the question that should be asked is that if Labor is 'so good' why is the Coalition in government a lot more. If Whitlam was so great then why was he defeated not once, but twice by a record majority.

I am sure you have your conspiracy theories, but the fact is the people hate whitlam.


No more than they hate any other politician........ actually hardly anyone outside of here discusses Whitlam.... but they sure have the knives out for the current lot.....
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Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov
Reply #16 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:28am
 
Kat wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 7:11am:
Whitlam was one of our best-ever PMs.

He did more in his time to benefit this country than ALL successive Lib governments put together.

Their ideology of tearing-down everything he created is just one reason why decent people despise them.

Australia NEEDS another Whitlam. And soon.


Whitlam was indeed an intelligent, charismatic, witty politician who truly may have thought he was doing the right thing, but most of his 'reforms' were completely unaffordable and unsustainable then, and even more so, now.

The welfare state mentality he fostered and the coddling of rampant unionism has crippled this country's industry competitiveness.
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Reply #17 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:36am
 
Rmariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:13am:
Maybe the question that should be asked is that if Labor is 'so good' why is the Coalition in government a lot more. If Whitlam was so great then why was he defeated not once, but twice by a record majority.

I am sure you have your conspiracy theories, but the fact is the people hate whitlam.

Howard lost two elections also and he was so hated he lost his seat too. Oh Mcgoo you've done it again.
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Reply #18 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:07am:
Hawke sent one frigate.



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This table contains the Gulf War Nominal Roll for Army personnel. It lists the surname, initials, and service number of each person as well as unit, ship or squadron details - where known.
Surname
Initials
Service Number
Unit/Ship/Squadron
Almeida      AA      325411      USNS Comfort - 11FD AMB
Amin      A      317444      HMAS Brisbane - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Atkinson      RN      4722100      USNS Comfort - 3 FWD GEN HOSP
Baker      JR      4401345      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Broad      SJ      556139      HMAS Success - 111 AD BTY (LT)
Cantwell      J      1205014      Dragoon U - 1 ARMD REGT (TANK)
Chidgey      CD      212264      
Corke      K      318606      5 Innis - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Craig      DA      221033      US Int Te - ADSO (AASW)
Cromack      CJ      221671      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Drew      G      224625      UK Army - SASR
Eggins      RL      235604      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Franklin      NJ      4401254      HMAS Success - 111 AD BTY (LT)
Garden      HA      17291      HMAS Darwin - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Gillian      DC      323715      US Int Te - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Goold      AG      453999      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Hampton      BD      228131      
Hodkinson      A      2800864      MODUK UK - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Hogan      GP      225734      US INTEL TE - ADS OVERSEAS
Hyde      M      313876      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Inglis      PA      554688      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Irwin      AJ      228412      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Joy      RA      1206173      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Joyce      H      F229007      USNS Comfort - 1 FD HOSP
Khalil      A      231286      HMAS Sydney - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Kumnick      DL      F556989      USNS Comfort - 1 FD HOSP
Lewis      ED      1905002      USNS Comfort - PERS DIV, AHQ
Mackay      AJ      147868      USNS Comfort - 1 MIL HOSP
Masotti      N      2802682      USNS Comfort - 2 FD AMB
McGarry      KJ      48393      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
McWatters      AJ      226570      FRG 4 (UK) Armd Bde - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Moriarty      G      5100470      US Int Te - 2 DIV INT COY
Newboult      GW      F264815      USNS Comfort - 1 FD HOSP
Overstead      PL      1202466      Observer - ADS OVERSEAS
Parker      GL      325839      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Reynolds      GJ      182683      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Robertson      AT      455168      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Robinson      JA      230800      HMAS Sydney - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Scanlan      PJ      442194      US Army - ADSO (AASW)
Schofield      PT      185090      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Sheppard      G      552048      US Int Te - ADSO (AASW)
Sims      PG      48999      39ER UK - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Sonogan      RK      329160      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Teh      JY      860697      USNS Comfort - 1 MIL HOSP
Thannhauser      L      325504      HMAS Westralia - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Toohill      SW      236486      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Vagi      CL      314438      
Walters      JCN      227615      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Watkins      WP      321958      HMAS Success - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Williams      D      319637      UK Army - LOCAL ADMIN (AHQ)
Wrobel      J      436044      USNS Comfort - DCSC - SA
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Reply #19 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am
 
Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.
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Reply #20 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:53am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am:
Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.


And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.
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Reply #21 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:00am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:53am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am:
Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.


And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.


It doesn't matter that much. We don't need a surplus. As long as year to year deficits are smaller than the nominal economic growth from year to year it is never a problem.
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Reply #22 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:07am
 
The only commentators that view Whitlam's government in high regard are shrill, brainless leftards. In fact, he was an irresponsible socialist vandal intent on destroying Australia's economy. Sound familiar?
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Reply #23 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:11am
 
Labor voter wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 6:21am:
Last week was the 40 years anniversary of the sacking of the Whitlam government by the Governor-General Kerr.

In 3 short years the Whitlam was in power this is what his government achived



You forgot the Lima Declaration.

Its effects on manufacturing are still being felt. What a legacy.
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Reply #24 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:16am
 
double plus good wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:07am:
The only commentators that view Whitlam's government in high regard are shrill, brainless leftards. In fact, he was an irresponsible socialist vandal intent on destroying Australia's economy. Sound familiar?


The only people that thought he was of any value was the assisted migrants fee loaders  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #25 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:32am
 
lee wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:11am:
Labor voter wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 6:21am:
Last week was the 40 years anniversary of the sacking of the Whitlam government by the Governor-General Kerr.

In 3 short years the Whitlam was in power this is what his government achived



You forgot the Lima Declaration.

Its effects on manufacturing are still being felt. What a legacy.


DEPARTMENT OF
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THE LIMA DECLARATION

The Lima Declaration and Plan of Action on Industrial Development and Cooperation was adopted in 1975 at a Conference sponsored by the United Nations Industrial Development Organisation (UNIDO). It has, in legal terms, exhortatory force only; that is, it sets out recommendations on assistance to developing countries. The Declaration does not have treaty status and therefore does not require signature or ratification. It is not, and never was, binding on the Australian Government under international law. The Australian Government formulates its policy on developing countries on the basis of what it judges to be the national interest.

At the time of its adoption, Australia gave only qualified support to the declaration. Since then the Lima Declaration has been superseded by the more recent International Development Strategy for the Fourth United Nations Development Decade (IDS IV) which is based on the view that responsibility for the promotion of economic and social development rests primarily with the governments of developing countries. Like the Lima Declaration, IDS IV is not binding on the Australian government. That said, an important point in both the Lima Declaration and the International Development Strategy, with which the Australian Government wholeheartedly agrees, is that it is appropriate, in trading with developing countries, to accord them differential and favourable treatment. Indeed, in 1966, long before the Lima Declaration, Australia led the world in conferring concessional tariffs to imports to Australia from developing countries under the Australian System of Tariff Preferences (ASTP).

Under ASTP, tariff concessions are granted to developing countries to facilitate their economic development by helping them to compete with developed countries in the Australian market. The current scheme extends a uniform preference margin of five percentage points on most dutiable imports of developing country origin. This means that developing countries face a tariff on dutiable goods which is five percentage points less than the tariff applicable to the same goods from an industrialised country. The ASTP does not contain any country or product specific quota restrictions or similar mechanisms to limit the automatic threshold provisions which would trigger the removal of products or countries from the scheme.

Accordingly, the ASTP offers developing countries predictable and stable benefits, and its administrative simplicity ensures that it is easily understood and readily used by all beneficiaries. In 1992, almost 96% of Australia’s dutiable imports from developing countries entered at a preferential rate under the ASTP.

Some adjustments to developing country preference arrangements have been made recently to take into account concerns of domestic industry about the effect of preference margins to Australian industry. From 1st July 1993, developing country preferences extended to Singapore, Hong Kong, the Republic of Korea and Taiwan will commence to phase out because the strength of these economies and the capacity of their exports to compete in the Australian market without the assistance of a concessional tariff. The Government also decided that preferences for textiles, clothing and footwear, chemicals, fruit juice and certain foods will begin phasing out from 1st July 1993 for all beneficiaries except the Least Developed Countries and the South Pacific Island Territories. These industries in Australia are facing substantially improved competition from developing countries at the same time as they are undergoing structural adjustment under tariff reduction and other programs. Tariff preferences are no longer required for developing countries to compete in the Australian market in these industries.
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Reply #26 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:34am
 
Labor voter wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 6:21am:
Since 1975 we have had 22 years of Fraser, Howard and Abbott Liberal governments, I have left out the Turnbull government as he hasn't been in power that long.


Comparing the above quote and the headline of this thread - hhmmm

3 years of Labor???!!!

1975 to 2015 is 40 years

22 of the 40 years is LIBs
18 of the 40 years is ALP

So how does this reconcile with the heading of this thread?
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Reply #27 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:58am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:53am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am:
Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.


And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.

Poor Longy, so little understanding.
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Reply #28 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 11:00am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:58am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:53am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am:
Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.


And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.

Poor Longy, so little understanding.


I agree

We should go with the Bernie Sanders tax solution "it will be less than 90% but more than 70%
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Reply #29 - Nov 18th, 2015 at 11:25am
 
Maqqa wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 11:00am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 10:58am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:53am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 18th, 2015 at 9:40am:
Someone should tell that bone headed idiot Morriscum that austerity is not the way to achieve a surplus.


And how would you know?  You get virtually everything you say dead wrong.

Poor Longy, so little understanding.


I agree

We should go with the Bernie Sanders tax solution "it will be less than 90% but more than 70%


And zero production
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