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3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov
Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:21am

Last week was the 40 years anniversary of the sacking of the Whitlam government by the Governor-General Kerr.

In 3 short years the Whitlam was in power this is what his government achived

Apart from Medibank?

and the Trade Practices Act 1974?

cutting tariff protections?

and no-fault divorce and the Family Law Act 1975?

the Australia Council?

the Federal Court?

the Order of Australia?

federal legal aid?

the Racial Discrimination Act 1975?

needs-based schools funding?

the recognition of China?

the Law Reform Commission?

the abolition of conscription?

student financial assistance?

FM radio and the Heritage Commission?

non-discriminatory immigration rules?

community health clinics?

Aboriginal land rights?

paid maternity leave for public servants?

lowering the minimum voting age to 18 years?

fair electoral boundaries and Senate representation for the Territories?

Since 1975 we have had 22 years of Fraser, Howard and Abbott Liberal governments, I have left out the Turnbull government as he hasn't been in power that long.

So my question is what has any of the liberal government achieve for all Australians over the 22 years that they have been in power? Can you look back in 40 years time and remember anything they have done?

This is not a thread about I hate Whitlam it is a thread on what a liberal government has done in 22 years while they were in power.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov Reply #1 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:52am The only years of Labor govt were the Hawke years. Oh and you're wrong, I despise the Whitlam years of destruction.
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Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov
Reply #2 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:04am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The only years of Labor govt were the Hawke years.

Oh and you're wrong, I despise the Whitlam years of destruction.

PAID MATERNITY LEAVE FOR PUBLIC SERVANTS..

NO DISCRIMINATION THERE.. Roll Eyes

the rest mostly stoke of the pen stuff..

not forgetting all the dickheads we have thanks to FREE Uni...

a 10 year masters degree in pottery just what we needed.. Grin

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov Reply #3 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:11am Whitlam was one of our best-ever PMs. He did more in his time to benefit this country than ALL successive Lib governments put together. Their ideology of tearing-down everything he created is just one reason why decent people despise them. Australia NEEDS another Whitlam. And soon.
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Reply #4 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:17am

The libs sold our 167 tonne gold reserves cheap, which the Chinese swooped on.

The RBA revealed in July 1997 that over a six-month period, it had sold 167 tonnes, reducing Australia's reserves to just 80 tonnes. At this time, the value of its gold assets fell from $3.6bn to about $1.1bn.
The RBA's sales pushed the world gold price down to an 11-year low, returning just $2.4bn for the gold that was sold via a single broker engaged without a tender.

The same amount of gold would be worth about $7.4bn today.

http://ausbullion.blogspot.com.au/2011/01/australias-reserve-banks-gold-sale-cos...

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Reply #5 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:20am

How Australia squandered the mining boom

Why Australia is ending its historic mining boom little better off than when it started.

Australia failed to capitalise on a once-in-a-lifetime mining boom because politicians put short-term vote-winning policies ahead of the long-term interest of the nation, economists say.

The private interests of the powerful mining lobby were equally to blame for the squandering of a golden opportunity to strengthen Australia’s economic future.

An unprecedented boom in demand for commodities – mainly from China – saw Australian exports of iron ore and coal skyrocket in the early 2000s.

But rather than use the associated tax revenue to strengthen the non-mining sectors in preparation for the inevitable end of the boom, the Howard government passed the savings straight to households in the form of income tax and superannuation tax concessions, a move which Labor supported.

“I’ve never seen something so squandered in my life,” says Mr Richard Robinson, associate director of economics at BIS Shrapnel.

“What happened in the 2000s [when the mining boom began] is that corporate tax revenue increased. Instead of putting that into a future fund, their first response was to recycle those increases into personal tax cuts. The household sector was therefore the main beneficiary of the mining boom.”

This, he says, translated into increased investment in property and rising house prices.

http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/2015/01/15/australia-squandered-mining-boom/

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Reply #6 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:23am

cods wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:04am:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 6:52am:

The only years of Labor govt were the Hawke years.

Oh and you're wrong, I despise the Whitlam years of destruction.

PAID MATERNITY LEAVE FOR PUBLIC SERVANTS..

NO DISCRIMINATION THERE.. Roll Eyes

the rest mostly stoke of the pen stuff..

not forgetting all the dickheads we have thanks to FREE Uni...

a 10 year masters degree in pottery just what we needed..

When government made changes like this and the move to the 36 hr week the idea was that it was meant to flow through all employment, it was never meant to be exclusive to the PS. The problem was that the Libs and Business were successful in preventing the natural flow of these things.

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Reply #7 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:24am

The Howard govt created. . .wealthfare and a huge structural Budget deficit. And fanned and fuelled a credit driven real estate boom and pissed $350Bn boom time revenue up against the wall.

What a waste of 12 years—and the damage the little pillock did still lives 9 years after he got the Double Order of the Boot, second PM in 100 years to do so.

Privatised Telstra, deliberately, as a wholesale and retail monopoly to get more money to spend on pork and buying elections. THAT stupidity is still causing problems now too, the next stupid Lib govt had to buy the copper and HFC back to run obsolete technology. That will have to be fixed soon to get high speed broadband.

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Reply #8 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:29am

Here is a start!!!

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Introduced to G.S.T.
Introduced tougher gun regulation.
Increased funding to Private Schools.
Privatised the employment service.
Introduced Chaplains in Schools.
Introduced work for the dole.
Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria).
Introduced rebates for private health care.
Built the Guan railway.
Sold off Telstra.
Introduced Work Choices.
Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement.

There could be more so feel free to add to the list!!!

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Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov
Reply #9 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 8:22am

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Introduced to G.S.T.

It's a thing. Not exactly earth-shattering.

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Introduced tougher gun regulation.

A lot of people are happy with this, I'm not sure it was necessary, but I'm also not opposed to it. It may have helped prevent mass shootings.

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Increased funding to Private Schools.

Rather they funded public ones better, to be honest.

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Privatised the employment service.

Not sure how well this has worked out. They seem to be scam artists trying to do a little as possible and collect government money.

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Introduced Chaplains in Schools.

Totally unnecessary.

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Introduced work for the dole.

Which doesn't work. It's a punitive program that appeases taxpayers by exploiting the unemployed and undercuts the minimum wage.

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Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria).

Thanks for that.

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Introduced rebates for private health care.

Once again, prefer an improvement to the public system.

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Built the Guan railway.

Good job.

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Sold off Telstra.

Still unsure about this.

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Introduced Work Choices.

Which didn't last all that long.

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Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement.

Mostly good, but some downsides, too.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov Reply #10 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 8:27am If the “Guan” railway is the Alice Springs to Darwin railway the Howard govt provided a tiny amount of the money. Heh, that railway line gave me a nice little profit. Bought a few thousand OneSteel shares at 99¢, sold them not that much later at $1.66
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Reply #11 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 8:29am

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:29am:

Here is a start!!!

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Introduced to G.S.T.
Introduced tougher gun regulation.
Increased funding to Private Schools.
Privatised the employment service.
Introduced Chaplains in Schools.
Introduced work for the dole.
Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria).
Introduced rebates for private health care.
Built the Guan railway.
Sold off Telstra.
Introduced Work Choices.
Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement.

There could be more so feel free to add to the list!!!

Phil there is only 2 things there that Howard didn't do Abbott done them.

The second or third I should say Iraq, Syria war. Hawke sent the troops to the first Iraq war in 1990

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47794 Gender:	Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov Reply #12 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:07am Hawke sent one frigate.
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mariacostel Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7344 Sydney Gender:	Re: 3 yrs of Lab gov v 22 yrs of Lib gov Reply #13 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:13am Maybe the question that should be asked is that if Labor is 'so good' why is the Coalition in government a lot more. If Whitlam was so great then why was he defeated not once, but twice by a record majority. I am sure you have your conspiracy theories, but the fact is the people hate whitlam.
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Reply #14 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 9:21am

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 7:29am:

Here is a start!!!

Quote:

Introduced to G.S.T.
Introduced tougher gun regulation.
Increased funding to Private Schools.
Privatised the employment service.
Introduced Chaplains in Schools.
Introduced work for the dole.
Involved Australia in 4 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria).
Introduced rebates for private health care.
Built the Guan railway.
Sold off Telstra.
Introduced Work Choices.
Implemented an Australia US free trade agreement.

There could be more so feel free to add to the list!!!

Brought us a series of The World's Greatest Treasurers and Employment Ministers:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30124390/wages-growth-missing-link-in-buoyant-mood/

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/30127427/budget-on-trajectory-to-balance-morrison/

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