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Re: Shorten is Islamophobic?
Reply #15 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:43am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:04am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:58pm:

I didn't see Shorten condemning the Christian Democrats for bringing religion into politics....Although I agree with his sentiment I fail to see why he only chose to comment on the Muslim Party???

Huh

Which is why he's an Islamophobe

Maybe he was asked to comment on the Muslim Party but not the christian ones? I don’t think religion should mix with politics—we have way too many somewhat extremist Catholics in the government now, and look what they have done to science! This hasn’t changed with Mal booting the thug.

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Re: Shorten is Islamophobic?
Reply #16 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:48am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:23am:

but he raised no objections that I know of when Fred Nile established his Christian party in NSW parliament.

CDP was first formed in 1977 and known as 'The Call to Australia' Party. It changed it's name to Christian Democrat Party in Nov. 1997 ... Shorten first joined politics 10 years later.

You have no friggen idea do you?

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Reply #17 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 8:59am

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:23am:

but he raised no objections that I know of when Fred Nile established his Christian party in NSW parliament.

CDP was first formed in 1977 and known as 'The Call to Australia' Party. It changed it's name to Christian Democrat Party in Nov. 1997 ... Shorten first joined politics 10 years later.

You have no friggen idea do you?

No, you don't have any idea. I'm referring to it being openly called a religious party. Duh!

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Reply #19 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:40am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

Kat wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 10:54pm:

I think most people would be concerned, given the timing and the situation re terrorism.

But, I'll reserve my judgement until I have more facts (not propaganda) on which to base my decision.

You mean you'll wait to see where the preferences go

No.

If I'd meant that I'd have said so.

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Re: Shorten is Islamophobic?
Reply #20 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:41am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:23am:

but he raised no objections that I know of when Fred Nile established his Christian party in NSW parliament.

CDP was first formed in 1977 and known as 'The Call to Australia' Party. It changed it's name to Christian Democrat Party in Nov. 1997 ... Shorten first joined politics 10 years later.

You have no friggen idea do you?

No, you don't have any idea. I'm referring to it being openly called a religious party. Duh!

10 yrs before Shorten was ever in politics you idiot

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Re: Shorten is Islamophobic?
Reply #21 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:45am

"I don't necessarily want to see religion being a lighting rod for people being for or against a particular party," he told reporters in Cairns.

"I don't think that is going to help the debate about inclusion and multiculturalism."

this is what Shorten said, it's a general statement talking about religion in politics. It doesn't rule any religion in or out. As Monk said, before calling him Islamophobic you'd first need to know the question he was asked.

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Reply #22 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:42am

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Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said it was important everyone had a say but raised concerns about bringing religion into politics.

The left/Labour/Greens will be miffed,    ...by the emergence of this Australian Muslim Party.

Because the left/Labour/Greens assumed that it was THEY,    .....who had the moslem vote in Australia, all sewn up.

They probably thought that the moslem community would always be their social and political ally, in the Australian political scene.    ???

But that, was never ever, a true reflection, of the real agenda of members of the moslem community in Australia, who previously have had a loose alliance with, and have voted for left/Labour/Green parties.

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The poor left/Labour/Greens,       ....so naive, so easily deceived.       Embarrassed

The poor left/Labour/Greens,       .....so busy swimming in the machinations of their own policies of deceit and lies,    ....and now they suddenly find themselves, 'out of their depth', in trying to curry favour, among Australian moslem voters.

Face the truth.

In reality, members of the moslem community have absolutely no affinity with your [left/Labour/Greens] 'leftist' agendas.

Face the truth, left/Labour/Greens,    ....to the moslem, you are all filthy, stinking, morally corrupt infidels.

You are all simply 'useful idiots', to be used, and then discarded,    ....now that members of the moslem community have acquired the confidence to pursue their own political agenda in Australia.

It will be interesting to see just how 'ISLAMIC' leaning, the policies of the Australian Muslim Party will dare to be - in the present political climate towards ISLAM and ISLAMISTS, and the demands of moslems, generally.

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Re: Shorten is Islamophobic?
Reply #23 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:57am

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 8:59am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:48am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:23am:

but he raised no objections that I know of when Fred Nile established his Christian party in NSW parliament.

CDP was first formed in 1977 and known as 'The Call to Australia' Party. It changed it's name to Christian Democrat Party in Nov. 1997 ... Shorten first joined politics 10 years later.

You have no friggen idea do you?

No, you don't have any idea. I'm referring to it being openly called a religious party. Duh!

10 yrs before Shorten was ever in politics you idiot

Who cares when it first became a political party? Why does he only care about religious parties now there's a Muslim one?

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