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Reply #105 - Nov 20th, 2015 at 10:27am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 8:08pm:
Gidday Setanta, I have no problem with the current laws as they stand and I fail to see why anyone needs semi automatic weapons....So far no one has put the case as to why these weapons are necessary for the general public apart from a stupid self defence argument....More guns in the community will result in more killings and accidents....It is simple logic!!!

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I am not sure why you argue the toss with people who cannot explain what use a gun has other than to blow a hole in something.I can accept a knife has many uses...and a forks not bad.. however a gun to me has only ONE use..

another thing that bothers me.. is if or when a Police officer shoots and usually kills someone in line with doing their job.....

so many go on a hue and cry  saying

WHY DID HE SHOOT.......HE DIDNT HAVE TO KILL...

yet he is trained to do just that.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

yet  many see its fine that someone with no skills at all can own a gun... Roll Eyes

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #106 - Nov 20th, 2015 at 5:58pm
 
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 10:27am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 8:08pm:
Gidday Setanta, I have no problem with the current laws as they stand and I fail to see why anyone needs semi automatic weapons....So far no one has put the case as to why these weapons are necessary for the general public apart from a stupid self defence argument....More guns in the community will result in more killings and accidents....It is simple logic!!!

Huh Huh Huh




I am not sure why you argue the toss with people who cannot explain what use a gun has other than to blow a hole in something.I can accept a knife has many uses...and a forks not bad.. however a gun to me has only ONE use..

another thing that bothers me.. is if or when a Police officer shoots and usually kills someone in line with doing their job.....

so many go on a hue and cry  saying

WHY DID HE SHOOT.......HE DIDNT HAVE TO KILL...

yet he is trained to do just that.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

yet  many see its fine that someone with no skills at all can own a gun... Roll Eyes



I rarely indulge in arguing with anyone....Everyone is entitled to their opinion and although I might not agree with some people there concerns are sometimes legitimate!!!

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #107 - Nov 20th, 2015 at 8:35pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 5:58pm:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 10:27am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19th, 2015 at 8:08pm:
Gidday Setanta, I have no problem with the current laws as they stand and I fail to see why anyone needs semi automatic weapons....So far no one has put the case as to why these weapons are necessary for the general public apart from a stupid self defence argument....More guns in the community will result in more killings and accidents....It is simple logic!!!

Huh Huh Huh




I am not sure why you argue the toss with people who cannot explain what use a gun has other than to blow a hole in something.I can accept a knife has many uses...and a forks not bad.. however a gun to me has only ONE use..

another thing that bothers me.. is if or when a Police officer shoots and usually kills someone in line with doing their job.....

so many go on a hue and cry  saying

WHY DID HE SHOOT.......HE DIDNT HAVE TO KILL...

yet he is trained to do just that.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

yet  many see its fine that someone with no skills at all can own a gun... Roll Eyes



I rarely indulge in arguing with anyone....Everyone is entitled to their opinion and although I might not agree with some people there concerns are sometimes legitimate!!!

Huh Huh Huh


That's about it Phlip, not a lot more you can do besides state your view/opinion, try and give some reasoning, see if someone wants to really debate the pros/cons and I do agree the fewer guns there are in society the fewer will be killed by them, that's a pretty
safe bet but they may well still die from another implement of death.



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Reply #108 - Nov 20th, 2015 at 9:30pm
 
Make of it what you will....

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My beef is with the WAY government here went about removing firearms from the community, which was by installing a regimen under which anyone accused, with a zero standard of proof, of any form of the very attenuated 'violence' included under the 'domestic violence' umbrella, would, BY REGULATION AND NOT BY LAW, have any legally owned firearm confiscated without compensation.

That is and always has been the reality, and I will remind you all again that the Australian people REJECTED gun control at the election prior to the introduction of 'uniform domestic violence laws' under the reign of Paul Keating.

The installation, therefore, of an end run around democratic will of the people, by the installation of these (non) laws requiring zero evidence other than a 'feeling' by 'the complainant' - was a violent abrogation of the rule of democracy in this country, and a usurpation by government of the right of the people to determine for themselves their best path.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is a civil war declared by governments here against their own people.

On a personal note, I owned legal firearms, and gave them away, and had the option, at the time of the oppression of firearms here, to purchase semi-automatic hand guns and long arms - but chose not to do so.

In view of the absolute arrogance of government since that time, I regret the decision to not buy weapons for self-defence.
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