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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #60 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 4:19pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

If I called them sound moderators the hoplophobes might not understand what I am talking about.

Calling them silencers is dumb and wrong. Nothing silent about it. I fully support gun control of the weapons you seem to want access to, and also support sound suppressors, because why would i want those that need to use guns to suffer hearing loss?

In New Zealand they have strong regulations on who can own guns instead of what type they can have.
I think the NZ model is superior to our laws, they have had no mass shootings.

Our second worst mass shooting was done with a single shot bolt action .22, if you can trust someone with a single shot .22 then you can trust them with just about anything.

I think sound moderators should be allowed for farmers, many farmers always have dogs with them and not a single company sells hearing protection for dogs.

I think farmers should be allowed to have a pistol as well, it's not easy carrying a rifle on a motorbike/quad bike or horse, they should be allowed a pistol with similar restrictions to their Cat C semi auto rimfire can only be used on nominated property.

Not quite true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramoana_massacre

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #61 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 4:20pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He is long-term unemployed, has no skills and can scarcely string a sentence together

you just keep making crap up don't you? He was working before politics, and creative writing doesn't come as naturally to him as it does to you. That's hardly a fault. Cheesy

Muir was born in Maffra, Victoria. He grew up and went to school in Stratford. He worked for a leather company making car seats. Around 2009, he moved to Denison, near Heyfield, and worked for a sawmill, moving up to manager. Shortly before the election, the sawmill ceased operations and he lost his job. Source: Wikipedia.

He was unemployed. He cannot speak publicly. He has no real skills besides making seats and sawing wood.

I seem to remember a story just AFTER the election when Abbott asked Muir to meet with him in Canberra. Muirs' reply was that if Abbott wanted to speak to him he would have to travel to Muir as Muir couldn't afford to take the time of work

Found it

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/ricky-muir-nowhere-to-be-s...

Cheesy

It made Muir look like a backward hick. Which of course, was exactly what he was and still is. The first suit in his life (including for his wedding) was bought for the senate.

He wasn't even there when he said he was too busy to meet the PM. I wonder if the journo's checked in the pub for Muir?

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!! Reply #62 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 4:28pm Maria, are you still maintaining that Muir was "long term unemployed: or have you changed your mind?
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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #63 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:06pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He is long-term unemployed, has no skills and can scarcely string a sentence together

you just keep making crap up don't you? He was working before politics, and creative writing doesn't come as naturally to him as it does to you. That's hardly a fault. Cheesy

Muir was born in Maffra, Victoria. He grew up and went to school in Stratford. He worked for a leather company making car seats. Around 2009, he moved to Denison, near Heyfield, and worked for a sawmill, moving up to manager. Shortly before the election, the sawmill ceased operations and he lost his job. Source: Wikipedia.

He was unemployed. He cannot speak publicly. He has no real skills besides making seats and sawing wood.

I seem to remember a story just AFTER the election when Abbott asked Muir to meet with him in Canberra. Muirs' reply was that if Abbott wanted to speak to him he would have to travel to Muir as Muir couldn't afford to take the time of work

Found it

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/ricky-muir-nowhere-to-be-s...

Cheesy

It made Muir look like a backward hick. Which of course, was exactly what he was and still is. The first suit in his life (including for his wedding) was bought for the senate.

Grow up, foxtick.

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #64 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:17pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

If I called them sound moderators the hoplophobes might not understand what I am talking about.

Calling them silencers is dumb and wrong. Nothing silent about it. I fully support gun control of the weapons you seem to want access to, and also support sound suppressors, because why would i want those that need to use guns to suffer hearing loss?

In New Zealand they have strong regulations on who can own guns instead of what type they can have.
I think the NZ model is superior to our laws, they have had no mass shootings.

Our second worst mass shooting was done with a single shot bolt action .22, if you can trust someone with a single shot .22 then you can trust them with just about anything.

I think sound moderators should be allowed for farmers, many farmers always have dogs with them and not a single company sells hearing protection for dogs.

I think farmers should be allowed to have a pistol as well, it's not easy carrying a rifle on a motorbike/quad bike or horse, they should be allowed a pistol with similar restrictions to their Cat C semi auto rimfire can only be used on nominated property.

Not quite true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramoana_massacre

My daughter worked on the film "Out Of The Blue".

Of course she did!!!! LOL A bit like the relative who was flight director for Apollo 13, the billionaire relative and the ASIO spy.

You are such an easy mark.

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #65 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:18pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:

Maria, are you still maintaining that Muir was "long term unemployed: or have you changed your mind?

Do you know that having a few months working minimum wage in a sawmill doesnt make you long-term employed? Liek Lambie, he has spent most of the last 10 years on the dole. And 5 minutes listening to him talk will tell you why.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!! Reply #66 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:21pm mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:18pm: Liek Lambie, he has spent most of the last 10 years on the dole. Proof please.
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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #67 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:26pm

Stratos wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Liek Lambie, he has spent most of the last 10 years on the dole.

Proof please.

No problem. Just prove to me the existence of any historical figure using the new and approved 'Stratos Method' and I will indulge you. Along with the location of the Ark of the Covenant.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!! Reply #68 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:28pm You obviously believe it, seeing as you've doubled down with an even stronger claim. Why do you think Muir: Quote: has spent most of the last 10 years on the dole Don't get angry, just show me why you think is the case, because I've read nothing that suggests this is remotely true.
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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #69 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:11pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:26am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:36am:

Who votes for dickheads like David Leyonhjelm???

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/david-leyonhjelm-discourages-us-from-adopt...

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Senator David Leyonhjelm has labelled Australia "a nation of victims" and discouraged the United States from following Australia's example on gun control.

Senator Leyonhjelm told the NRA that Australia should not be a model for gun control, stating that John Howard's 1996 gun legislation - pushed through in the wake of the Port Arthur massacre - had made "no difference".

"We are a nation of victims," he said.

"You cannot own a gun for self defence ... the criminals still have guns. There's a very vigorous black market for guns, so it's not made the slightest bit of difference.

"If you want a gun, you can get one."

Senator Leyonhjelm has pushed for the rights of gun owners in Australia since his election in 2013 and recently negotiated a 12-month sunset clause on a ban on importing the Adler lever-action shotgun.

The fact we do not have automatic weapons freely available in Australia means we have less victims than the United States....If Leyonhjelm thinks massacres like the one in Port Arthur are an acceptable consequence so people can own automatic weapons he is an idiot....It makes a difference to those who lost their loved ones at Port Arthur who would no doubt find his comments about being victims very offensive!!!

Smiley

We haven't had Automatic weapons available to the public since the 30s, when they were banned by every state in Australia.

There were no automatic weapons at port arthur

I think your hysteria has caused a technical glitch in not being able to tell the difference between an automatic weapon and a semi automatic weapon, it happens with anti gun hysterics.

So calm your tits, it is just someone expressing an opinion, not quite illegal in this country yet.

Does it matter what I called a weapon the can kill masses of people....So calm your tits mate because I am also entitled to my opinion....Leyonhjelm has slagged off at the majority of Australian's by calling us victims, which insinuates we are weak in his closed mind....Even having semi automatic weapons would result in another massacre if some of the froot loops we have seen commit gun crimes had access to these weapons....Good on John Howard for having the balls to stand up to people like you!!!

Manstrual Cramps? Cry

Yes, you are entitled to an opinion even an ignorant one, but you are not entitled to have your ignorant opinion go unchallenged.

I find knowing what the f,,,,k you are talking about always helps in these situations

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #70 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:13pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:52am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:48am:

If I called them sound moderators the hoplophobes might not understand what I am talking about.

Calling them silencers is dumb and wrong. Nothing silent about it. I fully support gun control of the weapons you seem to want access to, and also support sound suppressors, because why would i want those that need to use guns to suffer hearing loss?

In New Zealand they have strong regulations on who can own guns instead of what type they can have.
I think the NZ model is superior to our laws, they have had no mass shootings.

Our second worst mass shooting was done with a single shot bolt action .22, if you can trust someone with a single shot .22 then you can trust them with just about anything.

I think sound moderators should be allowed for farmers, many farmers always have dogs with them and not a single company sells hearing protection for dogs.

I think farmers should be allowed to have a pistol as well, it's not easy carrying a rifle on a motorbike/quad bike or horse, they should be allowed a pistol with similar restrictions to their Cat C semi auto rimfire can only be used on nominated property.

Not quite true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramoana_massacre

My daughter worked on the film "Out Of The Blue".

Of course she did!!!! LOL A bit like the relative who was flight director for Apollo 13, the billionaire relative and the ASIO spy.

You are such an easy mark.

So are you - since it's all true and you are a known fantasist.

You really ought to get away from that running with the known psychopaths you took on.. you'll be banned alongside them if you continue.

What billionaire relative? I have no billionaire relative... you've spent too long listening to He Person's fantasies and outright lies.....

Such an easy mark. Now do try to keep the personal remarks out of it, mania, and get on with discussion on facts, as I do. He Person's anti-Grappler jihad has been terminated... with extreme prejudice.

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #71 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:15pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:26pm:

Stratos wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:21pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:

Liek Lambie, he has spent most of the last 10 years on the dole.

Proof please.

No problem. Just prove to me the existence of any historical figure using the new and approved 'Stratos Method' and I will indulge you. Along with the location of the Ark of the Covenant.

I did in the other thread. You dodged questions and fled that thread too. You are of course, welcomes to continue our previous discussion there:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1446463185/570#570

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #72 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:27pm

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:11pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 7:26am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 5:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 12:36am:

Who votes for dickheads like David Leyonhjelm???

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-17/david-leyonhjelm-discourages-us-from-adopt...

Quote:

Senator David Leyonhjelm has labelled Australia "a nation of victims" and discouraged the United States from following Australia's example on gun control.

Senator Leyonhjelm told the NRA that Australia should not be a model for gun control, stating that John Howard's 1996 gun legislation - pushed through in the wake of the Port Arthur massacre - had made "no difference".

"We are a nation of victims," he said.

"You cannot own a gun for self defence ... the criminals still have guns. There's a very vigorous black market for guns, so it's not made the slightest bit of difference.

"If you want a gun, you can get one."

Senator Leyonhjelm has pushed for the rights of gun owners in Australia since his election in 2013 and recently negotiated a 12-month sunset clause on a ban on importing the Adler lever-action shotgun.

The fact we do not have automatic weapons freely available in Australia means we have less victims than the United States....If Leyonhjelm thinks massacres like the one in Port Arthur are an acceptable consequence so people can own automatic weapons he is an idiot....It makes a difference to those who lost their loved ones at Port Arthur who would no doubt find his comments about being victims very offensive!!!

Smiley

We haven't had Automatic weapons available to the public since the 30s, when they were banned by every state in Australia.

There were no automatic weapons at port arthur

I think your hysteria has caused a technical glitch in not being able to tell the difference between an automatic weapon and a semi automatic weapon, it happens with anti gun hysterics.

So calm your tits, it is just someone expressing an opinion, not quite illegal in this country yet.

Does it matter what I called a weapon the can kill masses of people....So calm your tits mate because I am also entitled to my opinion....Leyonhjelm has slagged off at the majority of Australian's by calling us victims, which insinuates we are weak in his closed mind....Even having semi automatic weapons would result in another massacre if some of the froot loops we have seen commit gun crimes had access to these weapons....Good on John Howard for having the balls to stand up to people like you!!!

Manstrual Cramps? Cry

Yes, you are entitled to an opinion even an ignorant one, but you are not entitled to have your ignorant opinion go unchallenged.

I find knowing what the f,,,,k you are talking about always helps in these situations

My opinion was based on Leyonhjelm calling Australian's victims like we are piss weak which you failed to address and instead went on a rant about what big bloody gun with lots of bullets was used....You have a very nasty nature and prove the point that people like you should never be allowed to own a big bloody gun with lots of bullets!!!

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Reply #73 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:37pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 11:53am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He is long-term unemployed, has no skills and can scarcely string a sentence together

you just keep making crap up don't you? He was working before politics, and creative writing doesn't come as naturally to him as it does to you. That's hardly a fault. Cheesy

Muir was born in Maffra, Victoria. He grew up and went to school in Stratford. He worked for a leather company making car seats. Around 2009, he moved to Denison, near Heyfield, and worked for a sawmill, moving up to manager. Shortly before the election, the sawmill ceased operations and he lost his job. Source: Wikipedia.

He was unemployed. He cannot speak publicly. He has no real skills besides making seats and sawing wood.

I seem to remember a story just AFTER the election when Abbott asked Muir to meet with him in Canberra. Muirs' reply was that if Abbott wanted to speak to him he would have to travel to Muir as Muir couldn't afford to take the time of work

Found it

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/ricky-muir-nowhere-to-be-s...

Cheesy

Pretty sure if he was working at the time, his employer would understand if he had a meeting with the PM.

His employer? that would mean he was employed wouldn't it? Cheesy

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Re: David Leyonhjelm calls Australian's victims!!!
Reply #74 - Nov 19^th, 2015 at 6:38pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 3:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 10:01am:

John Smith wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:49am:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 19^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He is long-term unemployed, has no skills and can scarcely string a sentence together

you just keep making crap up don't you? He was working before politics, and creative writing doesn't come as naturally to him as it does to you. That's hardly a fault. Cheesy

Muir was born in Maffra, Victoria. He grew up and went to school in Stratford. He worked for a leather company making car seats. Around 2009, he moved to Denison, near Heyfield, and worked for a sawmill, moving up to manager. Shortly before the election, the sawmill ceased operations and he lost his job. Source: Wikipedia.

He was unemployed. He cannot speak publicly. He has no real skills besides making seats and sawing wood.

I seem to remember a story just AFTER the election when Abbott asked Muir to meet with him in Canberra. Muirs' reply was that if Abbott wanted to speak to him he would have to travel to Muir as Muir couldn't afford to take the time of work

Found it

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/ricky-muir-nowhere-to-be-s...

Cheesy

It made Muir look like a backward hick. Which of course, was exactly what he was and still is. The first suit in his life (including for his wedding) was bought for the senate.

I don't care how Muir looked ... I'm more interested in how you look

and you're looking like someone who has no idea and just makes crap up as she goes.
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