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Reply #90 - Nov 21st, 2015 at 9:56pm
 
mothra wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 4:02pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 4:00pm:
In Australia - we don't need to be actively watching 400 suspected  terrorists -

we need to lock them up - detention without trial.

How else can we be safe?



Bobby, locking people up wthout trial is an excellent way to be unsafe.



But notice how all the ones who have committed terrorist acts both here & in France
were well known to the authorities?

We can't take the risk of having them loose on our streets.

This would take emergency powers that Turnbull is too gutless to enact until it's too late
as has happened in France.
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Reply #91 - Nov 21st, 2015 at 10:03pm
 
The French will not lose - they are determined:


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Reply #92 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 6:13am
 
ABC 24  news:

Parliament is open today.

We might get that big powerful speech from Turnbull that we've all been waiting for.

Will he lock up all potential terrorists under emergency powers?

Watch this space & listen to the radio.
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Reply #93 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 6:24pm
 
All I can find is this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-23/live-blog-parliament-resumes-paris-attacks...


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Tribute to Paris

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has spoken in parliament on the terror attacks in Paris, saying those who carried it out “defamed and blasphemed Islam”.

ABC reporter Stephanie Anderson was listening in.

Fresh from a series of meetings aboard, Mr Turnbull spoke strongly in favour of the world’s Muslim leaders, saying they have “spoken out for an authentic, moderate and tolerant Islam”.

Some of his key messages included:

“Islam teaches that to kill one innocent life is as though to kill all humanity.”

“Our mission to disrupt, degrade and destroy the terrorists is making progress.”

“The richness of our diversity is one of our nation's greatest strengths and we must protect and defend it dearly.”

Mr Turnbull ended his message in French, adding that the Australian people send their heartfelt sympathy and “unwavering support” to those impacted by the attacks.


There is no Hansard for today.

Malcolm spoke in French but it seemed to be wrong to me.
I think he was trying to say:

Nous envoyons nos sincères condoléances

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Reply #94 - Nov 23rd, 2015 at 7:26pm
 
Four Corners  tonight  23 Nov. 2015

Plan Of Attack

    8.32pm - 9.19pm
    ABC

The network creating the next generation of home grown jihadists.
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Reply #95 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 5:58pm
 
Turnbull finally gave his speech today -
it did not sound Churchillian -
no fight them on the beaches rhetoric -
was it enough?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/malcolm-turnbull-delivers-national-securit...


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In his first national security statement as Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull has declared Islamic State is weak and has "many more smartphones than guns, many more Twitter accounts than soldiers".
Key points:

    Turnbull calls Islamic State weak, says Australia cannot be fooled by its "hype"
    Calls IS beliefs "archaic" but internet use "modern"
    Says no plans to send ground troops to Syria
    Launches new terror alert system to provide public with more information

"We must not be fooled by its hype. Its ideology is archaic but its use of the internet is very modern," he said.

Mr Turnbull also stressed the need for measured responses to the attacks in Paris.

"This is not a time for gestures or machismo," he said.

"Calm, clinical, professional, effective — that's how we defeat this menace."


Mr Turnbull repeated his rejection of calls from within his party for Australian troops to fight on the ground in Syria.

"I have to report to the House that the consensus of the leaders I met at the G20, at APEC and at the East Asia Summit, is that there is no support currently for a large US-led Western army to attempt to conquer and hold ISIL-controlled areas," he said.

"There are currently no plans for a significant change in the level or the nature of Australia's military commitment in Iraq and Syria.
YouTube: PM delivers national security statement on how Australia will tackle terrorism

"No such change has been sought by our allies — if one were we would of course carefully consider it.

"Current advice to the Government is that the unilateral deployment of Australian combat troops on the ground in Iraq or Syria is neither feasible or practical."

Mr Turnbull also announced the Government would move to a new terrorism alert system.

"I can inform the House that the National Threat Assessment Centre, or NTAC, that sits within ASIO will this week transition to the new National Terrorism Threat Advisory System," he said.

"The new system will provide the public with more information on the nature of the threat we are facing.

"The adoption of a five-tiered threat system will also provide ASIO with greater flexibility in determining threat levels, reflecting the need to adapt to an evolving security environment."

After Mr Turnbull's speech, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten pledged to continue to work in a bipartisan fashion with the Government.

"We worked with Mr Abbott and we will do so again with Mr Turnbull," he told Parliament.

Like the Prime Minister, Mr Shorten called for a careful approach to dealing with terrorism.

"Words and ideas, hearts and minds are at the core of winning the struggle against terrorism," he said.

Mr Shorten is also against the idea of deploying combat troops to the region.

"We do not want to perpetuate another cycle as occurred following the invasion of 2003," he said.

"A large-scale troop movement, civil unrest and ongoing violence, escalation, withdrawal and eventual return.

"We can and we must provide Iraqi armed forces with the skills and trainings to repel and overcome Daesh, to focus on building their own capacity to train themselves and to protect themselves.

"We understand the very real risk of a protracted ground war, involving Australian personnel in danger with limited potential for it to contribute to the long-term solution we should be seeing.

"In the short term, an escalated presence of western troops will only feed the propaganda of Daesh."
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Reply #96 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:42pm
 
Churchill:

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Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the Gestapo and all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end.

We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender,


and if, which I do not for a moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our Empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time, the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the old.
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Reply #97 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:46pm
 
Turncoat longs for the day when more muslims are here so he can feel superior to them.

Has turnbull ever stated that he is not homosexual ?
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Re: Turnbull to protect us from terrorists?
Reply #98 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 7:25pm
 
Merlin wrote on Nov 24th, 2015 at 6:46pm:
Turncoat longs for the day when more muslims are here so he can feel superior to them.

Has turnbull ever stated that he is not homosexual ?



Let's not get side tracked about homos.

Was Turnbull's speech as good as Churchill's?

Was it as memorable?

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