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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #135 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:59pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:55pm: lol: are you friggin serious right now Yep, please show a study that shows respiration of plants produces C; if you disagree.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #136 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 4:15pm lee wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:59pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 3:55pm: lol: are you friggin serious right now Yep, please show a study that shows respiration of plants produces C; if you disagree. okeley dokeley
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17980 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #137 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 4:17pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 4:15pm: okeley dokeley Seeing as no paper is forthcoming, I'll take it there is none.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #138 - Dec 8^th, 2015 at 4:18pm
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #139 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:21am
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Reply #140 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 10:10am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 6:21am:

http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad314/knackers1/12299127_1085409298144924_738...

Funny.
How much has this NOTHING cost so far? In billions will do.

Catastrophic global warming is a hoax. The UN only wants 1 trillion dollars of our money (worldwide),by 2100. A supra- government.

' "This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model, for the first time in human history", Ms Figueres stated at a press conference in Brussels.

"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the industrial revolution. '

http://www.unric.org/en/latest-un-buzz/29623-figueres-first-time-the-world-econo...

The only way they can do that is via the UN. An unelected unrepresentative body. But hey they are well paid in the UN and it is tax-free.

'Tax exemption

Salaries, grants and allowances paid by the United Nations are normally exempt from income tax.'

https://careers.un.org/lbw/home.aspx?viewtype=SAL

So they ant us to pay increased taxes but none themselves. Good one huh?

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Reply #141 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:38pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:06pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 11:38pm:

El Nino means that the east coast of Australia is to receive a colder ocean current. Whilst the west coast of South America receives a warmer current. You would probably note that Townsville, typically averaging 1200mm of rain each year, has about 300mm of rain total for the year to November. I live in Rockhampton, and we are up to about 600 to 700mm. Normally, we have these occasional storms for this time of year, when it would rain fairly heavily during these storms. But because of the colder ocean currents, the storms are not very strong, and have not amount of rainfall that could cool us down. Today, yesterday, and probably the day before that, we have been experiencing over 35 degree temperatures (maximum of 40) for this week. I have not felt at all comfortable. Especially seeing that I have to wear long pants as part of my work uniform.

With the El Nino breaking down, we should see some normality come to east coast Australia. I see no reason why we could have a bumper (albeit late) start to the cyclone season. Doubt that I will see an average rainfall to get the grass growing again for this year. May have to wait until next year.

link?

Look it up yourself.

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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13723 Colorado Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #142 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:40pm Australian weather is either drought or cyclone. No middle ground.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75087 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #143 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:43pm Marla wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:40pm: Australian weather is either drought or cyclone. No middle ground. We also occasionally get flooding ............ohh, and cyclones are limited to the north.
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Reply #144 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:55pm

Marla wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:40pm:

Australian weather is either drought or cyclone. No middle ground.

More often than not I see decent rainfall. This year is just one of those years where it does not rain very much. We are to see some drought breaking rain over the next month, and then things should be on the improve from then onwards.

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #145 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:59pm Marla wrote on Dec 9^th, 2015 at 2:40pm: Australian weather is either drought or cyclone. No middle ground. Cyclones?? Oh Marla.
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Marla Gold Member Offline Weed is my Jesus Posts: 13723 Colorado Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #147 - Dec 9^th, 2015 at 3:02pm Bitchin'
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Reply #148 - Dec 16^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

USA experiencing a very warm start to winter.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/12/14/el_nino_not_global_warming_beh...

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On Sunday, the temperature in New York City’s Central Park hit 67 degrees—the warmest Dec. 13 since 1923. Manhattanites practiced yoga outdoors and ice-skated in short sleeves. The Yuletide heat wave was even more impressive elsewhere, breaking some of the longest-standing American temperature records, some dating back 142 years. Greenwood, Mississippi, hit 83 degrees. Even the self-described “icebox of America,” International Falls, Minnesota, has had a mild start to the winter season: The high temperature there has dipped below the freezing mark only once so far this month—about 20 degrees warmer than a typical first half of December.

What the heck is going on?

To be clear: Global warming wasn’t primarily to blame/thank for this weekend’s ridiculously warm weather. A record-breaking El Niño has shunted the jet stream far to the north, paving the way for warm air to shatter records. The lack of snow so far—that may change later on this winter—has also helped keep things warmer: Without snow on the ground, the feeble December sun can warm things up much more efficiently. Third on the list, bumping up temperatures by perhaps a couple of degrees, is global warming. (Though, recent science suggests super-strong El Niños like this one might become more common in the coming decades.) Blaming an exceptionally warm December day entirely on global warming is just as misplaced as senators seeking to use a snowball as proof against it. Climate change made this weekend’s warmth more likely, but it wasn’t the main driving force.

What happens this winter will largely be up to El Niño, which has reached its peak strength in the Pacific Ocean and will soon begin to manifest itself even more strongly in U.S. weather. Judging from the latest weather model outlooks, warmth in the East isn’t going away anytime soon—we’ll have above average temperatures at least through mid-January. Monday morning’s weather models are hinting that East Coast temperatures in the 60s (and maybe even 70s) are possible again on Christmas Day. With more record-breaking likely to ensue, there’s now a zero percent chance of a White Christmas this year from Washington, D.C., to Boston.

With that kind of forecast, it’s time to start planning a post-presents picnic on Christmas Day. And we should enjoy it! An El Niño like this doesn’t come along often. Though global warming will boost temperatures even more in future winters, this month’s crazy warm weather would probably have happened almost exactly the same way without it.

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Reply #149 - Dec 16^th, 2015 at 6:56pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

USA experiencing a very warm start to winter.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/12/14/el_nino_not_global_warming_beh...

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On Sunday, the temperature in New York City’s Central Park hit 67 degrees—the warmest Dec. 13 since 1923. Manhattanites practiced yoga outdoors and ice-skated in short sleeves. The Yuletide heat wave was even more impressive elsewhere, breaking some of the longest-standing American temperature records, some dating back 142 years. Greenwood, Mississippi, hit 83 degrees. Even the self-described “icebox of America,” International Falls, Minnesota, has had a mild start to the winter season: The high temperature there has dipped below the freezing mark only once so far this month—about 20 degrees warmer than a typical first half of December.

What the heck is going on?

To be clear: Global warming wasn’t primarily to blame/thank for this weekend’s ridiculously warm weather. A record-breaking El Niño has shunted the jet stream far to the north, paving the way for warm air to shatter records. The lack of snow so far—that may change later on this winter—has also helped keep things warmer: Without snow on the ground, the feeble December sun can warm things up much more efficiently. Third on the list, bumping up temperatures by perhaps a couple of degrees, is global warming. (Though, recent science suggests super-strong El Niños like this one might become more common in the coming decades.) Blaming an exceptionally warm December day entirely on global warming is just as misplaced as senators seeking to use a snowball as proof against it. Climate change made this weekend’s warmth more likely, but it wasn’t the main driving force.

What happens this winter will largely be up to El Niño, which has reached its peak strength in the Pacific Ocean and will soon begin to manifest itself even more strongly in U.S. weather. Judging from the latest weather model outlooks, warmth in the East isn’t going away anytime soon—we’ll have above average temperatures at least through mid-January. Monday morning’s weather models are hinting that East Coast temperatures in the 60s (and maybe even 70s) are possible again on Christmas Day. With more record-breaking likely to ensue, there’s now a zero percent chance of a White Christmas this year from Washington, D.C., to Boston.

With that kind of forecast, it’s time to start planning a post-presents picnic on Christmas Day. And we should enjoy it! An El Niño like this doesn’t come along often. Though global warming will boost temperatures even more in future winters, this month’s crazy warm weather would probably have happened almost exactly the same way without it.

So what caused the warm December day in 1923??

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