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Reply #195 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 3:29pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 30th, 2015 at 3:20pm:
North pole set for December heat wave:

http://www.climatechangenews.com/2015/12/29/north-pole-set-for-december-heatwave...

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Monster storm over Iceland likely to push warm air over Arctic, sending temperatures soaring from -30C to freezing



Weather affects temperature; who knew?
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Reply #196 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 6:11pm
 
October and November record hot months. December is horrendous and will smash former records giving a huge step change for 2015 average temperature compared to other years.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/19/us/october-temperatures-two-degrees/index.html

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The list of superlatives for the month is staggering:

-- the warmest October ever observed (in 136 years of NOAA records),

-- the warmest month ever compared to average (out of 1,630 months),

-- the sixth consecutive month breaking a global temperature record, and

-- seven of the 10 warmest months have occurred in 2015.

The NOAA data is backed up by similar data sets maintained by NASA and the Japan Meteorological Agency, which also ranked October as the hottest month on record compared to average. All of this virtually guarantees that 2015 will rank as the warmest year overall, breaking the record that was set just last year.
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Reply #197 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 6:13pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 30th, 2015 at 3:29pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 30th, 2015 at 3:20pm:
North pole set for December heat wave:

http://www.climatechangenews.com/2015/12/29/north-pole-set-for-december-heatwave...

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Monster storm over Iceland likely to push warm air over Arctic, sending temperatures soaring from -30C to freezing



Weather affects temperature; who knew?


Please don't thank me. I am currently not accepting applications from aspiring disciples.
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Reply #198 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 7:10pm
 
See chart below and observe temperature change leap for 2014-2015. Its going to be even higher after the December 2015 figures are included. The figures on the left axis are deviations from 1951-1980 baseline in hundredths of oC.

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Reply #199 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 9:26pm
 
Aiieee, the El Nino is upon us. We're doomed.
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Reply #200 - Dec 30th, 2015 at 11:24pm
 
Its looking bad. The 2015 curve will kick upwards for December because the Northern Hemisphere was warmer than normal.

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Reply #201 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:35am
 
Oh, no. we're even more doomed.
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Reply #202 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:41am
 
lee wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:35am:
Oh, no. we're even more doomed.


We're fried.

We will know in the next few days what the outcome for December is which should be a horrendous new record temperature.

Blame it on AGW? Blame it on El Nino? Blame it on the Bossanova?

Whatever the cause, 20166 is looking like an even higher record year.
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Reply #203 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:43am
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:41am:
Blame it on AGW? Blame it on El Nino? Blame it on the Bossanova?

Whatever the cause, 20166 is looking like an even higher record year.



Blame it all on the Karl et al temperature reconstructions used by NASA/NOAA/GISS with some help from El Nino.
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Reply #204 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:48am
 
lee wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:43am:
Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:41am:
Blame it on AGW? Blame it on El Nino? Blame it on the Bossanova?

Whatever the cause, 20166 is looking like an even higher record year.



Blame it all on the Karl et al temperature reconstructions used by NASA/NOAA/GISS with some help from El Nino.


So Karl et al is causing all the heat waves and melting ice and permafrost by manipulating mathematics and algorithms to make the world feel hotter than it is?

How can the fiends Karl et al be stopped before our goose is cooked?
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Reply #205 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 1:01pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 10:48am:
So Karl et al is causing all the heat waves and melting ice and permafrost by manipulating mathematics and algorithms to make the world feel hotter than it is?



What part of El Nino didn't you understand? Heat waves are a fact of life, they weren't brought about by CAGW. If you find any evidence of melting permafrost, model studies don't count; please let us know.
Apart from which it has been warming since the Ice Age, with cooler periods occasionally. What do you think is the earth's optimum temperature? At the poles, at the equator, at mid latitudes.
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Reply #206 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 6:30pm
 
Temperature's rising under the collars of deniers:

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/freak-heatwave-pushes-winter-north-pole-above-fre...

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MONTREAL:  Temperatures at the North Pole rose above freezing point today, 20 degrees Celsius above the mid-winter norm and the latest abnormality in a season of extreme weather events.

Canadian weather authorities blamed the temperature spike on the freak depression which has already brought record Christmas temperatures to North America and lashed Britain with winds and floods.

The deep low pressure area is currently looming over Iceland and churning up hurricane force 75-knot winds and 30-foot waves in the north Atlantic while dragging warm air northwards.

"It's a very violent and extremely powerful depression, so it's not surprising that hot temperatures have been pushed so far north," said Canadian government meteorologist Nathalie Hasell.

"This deep depression has pushed hot air as far as the North Pole, where temperatures are at least 20 degrees above normal, at around freezing point, between zero and two degrees," she said.

US scientists from the North Pole Environmental Observatory told AFP that the temperatures had climbed suddenly.

An Arctic monitoring point 180 miles (300 kilometers) from the Pole that had been recording minus 37 degrees on Monday had shot up to minus eight by Wednesday, said senior researcher James Morison.

The polar region is the area of the world that has seen the most profound effects of climate change in recent decades.

Average year-round temperatures in the Arctic are three degrees Celsius higher than they were in the pre-industrial era, snowfall is heavier, winds are stronger and the ice sheet has been shrinking for 30 years.

El Nino

It would be too hasty, however, to pin this week's extreme weather directly on the man-made climate change phenomenon, rather than on a discreet anomaly.

Hasell said that Canada has not kept complete records of North Pole weather but that it was nonetheless "bizarre" to see such high temperatures on the ice pack in the middle of its long night.

After tormenting the North Atlantic, the depression is expected to head towards Russia's Siberia, where the inhabitants can expect a heatwave of sorts.

In Canada, the capital of the Nunavut territory of the native Inuit, Iqaluit, celebrated a relatively balmy Christmas when temperatures rose to minus 4.6 degrees -- up from an average of minus 21.

Baffin Island, better known for its snow and ice, experienced unheard of rainfall in December, said David Phillips of Canada's Environment Ministry.

"It's doubtless the El Nino effect, venturing further north," he told AFP, referring to a tropical Pacific weather phenomenon that reoccurs every four to seven years in more southerly climes.

The 2015 El Nino is regarded as perhaps the most powerful in a century and, combined with the effects of climate change, it has generated storms, flood and droughts in Central America and beyond.

Dozens of Americans were killed in rare, late season tornados in the southern United States before Christmas, and then the hot El Nino air was dragged north along the Atlantic coast bringing T-shirt weather to normally frigid cities.
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Reply #207 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 7:44pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 6:30pm:
Temperature's rising under the collars of deniers:



Yeah, North Pole, Alaska. Zipcode 99705. About 2800km from the actual North Pole.

Or perhaps the buoy AXIB currently approx 326 km from the North Pole.
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Reply #208 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 10:01am
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

Got a source for that graph?

THANX!

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Reply #209 - Jan 2nd, 2016 at 10:09am
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 20th, 2015 at 12:04pm:
No one disputes that its getting warmer.

But since 1998 more than a third of all manmade CO2 has gone up into the atmosphere but temperatures have remained more or less stable.

So where is the correlation that more CO2 increases temperature......????

CO2 is drastically rising yet temperatures are stable.


That leaves you with your cock in your hands when arguing about the correlation of CO2 and temperature.

The reality is temperature controls the amount of CO2 that is released into the atmosphere.

Going back millions of years in our history CO2 has never controlled temperature, even when we had 20 times more CO2 in our atmosphere.

CO2 may contribute to warming but it does not control the temperature at a mere 0.0004 parts of the atmosphere.

http://i65.tinypic.com/r1gzlk.png

- it's called phase change: the ice is melting!

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