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Reply #45 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:20pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:57am:
When do you expect to die and vacate your rock?



Comprehension issues? I'll reiterate;  no, I don't live under a rock.
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Reply #46 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:23pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:12pm:
While many past studies have found a global warming link to heat extremes, this study is one of the first to show how ocean warming can impact a heavy rainfall event.”



So increased evaporation causes more rain? I'm Shocked, Shocked I tell you.
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Reply #47 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:26pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:57am:
When do you expect to die and vacate your rock?


Comprehension issues? I'll reiterate;  no, I don't live under a rock.


Have you rented to Maria Costel?
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Reply #48 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:30pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:23pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:12pm:
While many past studies have found a global warming link to heat extremes, this study is one of the first to show how ocean warming can impact a heavy rainfall event.”


So increased evaporation causes more rain? I'm Shocked, Shocked I tell you.


Infusion of knowledge has that effect on the ignorant.
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Reply #49 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:34pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:30pm:
Infusion of knowledge has that effect on the ignorant.



Yep, you show inspired ignorance.
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Reply #50 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:49pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:30pm:
Infusion of knowledge has that effect on the ignorant.


Yep, you show inspired ignorance.


I show it the door. Off with you lee. Get educated!
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Reply #51 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 1:28pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:49pm:
I show it the door. Off with you lee. Get educated!



Your the one posted the story. Didn't read it? Didn't understand it?
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Reply #52 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 1:33pm
 
No heat wave here today... doona last night and cool today.... prediction is as low as 10-20 C later this week.. and it ain't even Tasmania...
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Reply #53 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:12pm
 
It just gets better.

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:12pm:
One prediction of the Woods Hole team’s modelling experiments


Modelling experiments, but they must be believed.
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Reply #54 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:23pm
 
Perth was supposed to be 23 last night... it was warmish but not too bad.

Today seems to have just started cooling off(maybe not!??!) at around just after midday and the forecast predicts a fairly rapid drop_ i think the heat may hang around but: the sea breeze isn't in yet... unsure: stillish with a slight promise of a breeze.

I will definitely get to the beach at some point... unless the breeze really hammers in!
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Reply #55 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:24pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:12pm:
It just gets better.

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:12pm:
One prediction of the Woods Hole team’s modelling experiments


Modelling experiments, but they must be believed.

What is a model, my dear lee, if not for experimentation?
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Reply #56 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:30pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 12:12pm:
“The sea surface temperatures around Australia during 2010/2011 were on average 0.5°C warmer than they were 60 years ago,” said Caroline Ummenhofer, a physical oceanographer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/climate_change_boosted_australias_2010_flood...

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LONDON—For the first time, researchers have linked the catastrophic floods in Australia in the summer of 2010 with global warming. And they warn that the double hazard of long-term ocean warming and rising atmospheric temperatures makes the risk of extreme rainfall greater in years to come.

In 2010, during a natural cyclic Pacific phenomenon called La Niña, sea surface temperatures in the Indian Ocean and the western Pacific were high, and the air became saturated with moisture.

When the clouds billowed over Queensland, they deposited so much water that 35 people died, 28,000 homes were flooded and 100,000 people were left without electricity. Lake Eyre, a normally dry lakebed in the country’s interior, filled with water.

The economic damage amounted to US $2.38 bn. Altogether so much water fell on the normally arid landscape that global sea levels dropped perceptibly.

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“The sea surface temperatures around Australia during 2010/2011 were on average 0.5°C warmer than they were 60 years ago,” said Caroline Ummenhofer, a physical oceanographer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in the US. “While many past studies have found a global warming link to heat extremes, this study is one of the first to show how ocean warming can impact a heavy rainfall event.”

She and her Australian colleagues report in the journal Geophysical Research Letters that they had identified the mechanisms that increase the likelihood of extreme rainfall. “Additional ocean warming enhanced onshore moisture transport into Australia and ascent and precipitation over the northeast,” they write.

“Our results highlight the role of long-term ocean warming for modifying rain-producing atmospheric circulation conditions, increasing the likelihood of extreme precipitation for Australia during future La Niña events.”

La Niña is the supposedly cooler little sister of the notorious El Niño, associated with warmer than usual waters in the eastern equatorial Pacific.  Researchers have already warned that it could play a role in future floods: Dr Ummenhofer and her colleagues have looked back in time to find that it has already done so.

Climatologists are normally reluctant to ascribe any one weather event to climate change driven by rising carbon dioxide levels as a consequence of the human combustion of fossil fuels: that is because climate is what people expect, but weather is what happens.

Repeated warnings

But Australian researchers have separately warned of storms ahead as global temperatures rise, and have identified the fingerprint of global warming in record temperatures in the southern continent.

They have also found that human greenhouse gas emissions may be contributing to the sustained droughts that periodically cripple Australia’s agriculture.

But this is the first direct link with any one episode of flooding. One prediction of the Woods Hole team’s modelling experiments is that because of warmer sea surface temperatures, Australia is now three times more likely to experience unprecedented rainfall during a strong La Niña event.

“The additional warming of the oceans has profound impacts on the atmosphere. It increases the amount of moisture in the atmosphere and can intensify rain-producing circulation conditions,” said Matthew England, of the Australian Research Council’s Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science, and a co-author.

“This is why in 2010/11 more moisture was brought onshore along Australia’s east coast. Stronger rising motion over the northeast resulted in higher rainfall, making it more likely for Australia to suffer extreme rainfall conditions during this strong La Niña.”

They reckon the currents around Antarctica are tightening up, hence less rainfall is reaching into our country explaining why Western Australia has been seeing long term patterns of decreased rainfall in its south-west.
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Reply #57 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:33pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 11:27am:
Setanta wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 11:12pm:
Why? It was a posted link? Is it false?



It gives a false impression.

How?
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Reply #58 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:36pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 9:25pm:
____ wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 9:01pm:
The Permian–Triassic extinction event (the Great Dying) may have been caused by release of methane from clathrates. An estimated 52% of marine genus went extinct, representing 96% of all marine species.



You know the error bars on that? That is not science. Once again you have nothing but rhetoric and your belief in AGW.

Science is defined by its error values: the uncertainty principle is where it all starts!

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Reply #59 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 2:38pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 9:15pm:
____ wrote on Nov 21st, 2015 at 9:11pm:
Your house may burn down. Your car may crash. You may get a terminal disease ... do you have any insurance policies?



What's the cost of the insurance policy? Are you an insurance salesman, can you quantify the risk?

--> lee is talking about error value laden quantities running economies presumably without even knowing it?!!?

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