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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #60 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:41pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 9:08pm: may have.. yawn.. the mechanic loves error values .. perhaps he prefers the words 'tolerance values' instead ???
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Re: We're having a heat wave
Reply #61 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:44pm

lee wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 8:21pm:

____ wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 8:02pm:

So heatwaves do effect wildfires.
Thanks for clearing that one up.

Yep but not to any great extent.
They don't start fires, they make damp things more likely to burn, by drying them out. Heatwaves dry crops. Who knew? Dry crops burn. And especially so when harvest is on.

And the only time "Heatwave" is mentioned in the attached article is in the headline. What does that tell you about heatwaves and wildfires. It makes the fire more difficult to fight, beccause of heavy protective gear.

You though, were attempting to make political capital out of those deaths.

Are you talking about error values

again

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.. you just don't like quantitative argument do you buddy Cheesy

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Reply #62 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:48pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:44pm:

lee wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 8:21pm:

____ wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 8:02pm:

So heatwaves do effect wildfires.
Thanks for clearing that one up.

Yep but not to any great extent.
They don't start fires, they make damp things more likely to burn, by drying them out. Heatwaves dry crops. Who knew? Dry crops burn. And especially so when harvest is on.

And the only time "Heatwave" is mentioned in the attached article is in the headline. What does that tell you about heatwaves and wildfires. It makes the fire more difficult to fight, beccause of heavy protective gear.

You though, were attempting to make political capital out of those deaths.

Are you talking about error values

again

?

.. you just don't like quantitative argument do you buddy Cheesy

Lastly, for good measure- or is it to convince lees own ego that he is actually not a bad person afterall!??! Roll Eyes

, lee goes for the fascistic imputation of moral superiority.

All in a days work hey buddy Grin

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17969 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #63 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:55pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:24pm: What is a model, my dear lee, if not for experimentation? Experimentation is one thing. Treating the output of models as fact; is entirely different.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17969 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #64 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:58pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:33pm: lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 11:27am: Setanta wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 11:12pm: Why? It was a posted link? Is it false? It gives a false impression. How? It gave a false impression that the heatwaves were causative.
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Re: We're having a heat wave
Reply #65 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:00pm

lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:55pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:24pm:

Experimentation is one thing. Treating the output of models as fact; is entirely different.

The objective of models is to determine ranges of prospective facts if the conditions of the model are repeated in an ecosystem.

Models produce a range of prospective facts. Its more scientific than abject denialism.

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Reply #66 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:02pm

lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:58pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:33pm:

lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 11:27am:

Setanta wrote on Nov 21^st, 2015 at 11:12pm:

Why? It was a posted link? Is it false?

It gives a false impression.

How?

It gave a false impression that the heatwaves were causative.

You putting the mast up on that issue then are ya Cheesy

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Reply #67 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:

The objective of models is to determine ranges of prospective facts if the conditions of the model are repeated in an ecosystem.

Models produce a range of prospective facts. Its more scientific than abject denialism.

And yet they only quote the most scary. They do not admit to doubt. And with the great variety of "parameters" that are input, which is correct?

The models don't do projections, predictions, prognostications. Just what do they do?

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Reply #68 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm

lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:55pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 2:24pm:

What is a model, my dear lee, if not for experimentation?

Experimentation is one thing. Treating the output of models as fact; is entirely different.

You don't know what a fact is!

Cheesy

Nomenclature buddy, nomenclature: cheers mate

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17969 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #69 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:07pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm: You don't know what a fact is! it's the strip of skin......
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Reply #70 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:08pm

lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:

The objective of models is to determine ranges of prospective facts if the conditions of the model are repeated in an ecosystem.

Models produce a range of prospective facts. Its more scientific than abject denialism.

And yet they only quote the most scary. They do not admit to doubt. And with the great variety of "parameters" that are input, which is correct?

The models don't do projections, predictions, prognostications. Just what do they do?

Scientific method has to start somewhere. You want a free-lunch son and we all know you can't talk your way out of that little truth!

- lee demands his free-lunch now and everyone else can just go and get it for him or he will pout and scream for mummy to help him demand the servants act more efficiently

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #71 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:09pm lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:07pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm: You don't know what a fact is! it's the strip of skin...... --> lee demands his servants get him his free lunch now or mummy will have to get involved
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17969 Gender:	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #72 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:11pm BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:08pm: Scientific method has to start somewhere. Yeh, but it doesn't end at the model. The model needs to be verified.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: We're having a heat wave Reply #73 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:15pm lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:11pm: BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:08pm: Scientific method has to start somewhere. Yeh, but it doesn't end at the model. The model needs to be verified. Okeley dokely captain
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Re: We're having a heat wave
Reply #74 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:36pm

lee wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:

The objective of models is to determine ranges of prospective facts if the conditions of the model are repeated in an ecosystem.

Models produce a range of prospective facts. Its more scientific than abject denialism.

And yet they only quote the most scary. They do not admit to doubt. And with the great variety of "parameters" that are input, which is correct?

The models don't do projections, predictions, prognostications. Just what do they do?

That's why people were invented.

I have to highlight to prevent lee going off on a frolic by picking one word and turning it into a plethora of denials, arguments and false facts.

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