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Re: We're having a heat wave
Reply #75 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:45pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:36pm:
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:
The objective of models is to determine ranges of prospective facts if the conditions of the model are repeated in an ecosystem.

Models produce a range of prospective facts. Its more scientific than abject denialism.


And yet they only quote the most scary. They do not admit to doubt. And with the great variety of "parameters" that are input, which is correct?

The models don't do projections, predictions, prognostications. Just what do they do?


That's why people were invented.

I have to highlight to prevent lee going off on a frolic by picking one word and turning it into a plethora of denials, arguments and false facts.


So people were invented to confirm their biases, when reading the tea leaves modelled data output.
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Reply #76 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:49pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:45pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:36pm:
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:
The objective of models is to determine ranges of prospective facts if the conditions of the model are repeated in an ecosystem.

Models produce a range of prospective facts. Its more scientific than abject denialism.


And yet they only quote the most scary. They do not admit to doubt. And with the great variety of "parameters" that are input, which is correct?

The models don't do projections, predictions, prognostications. Just what do they do?


That's why people were invented.

I have to highlight to prevent lee going off on a frolic by picking one word and turning it into a plethora of denials, arguments and false facts.


So people were invented to confirm their biases, when reading the tea leaves modelled data.


Thank you for your confession that you are a biased invention.

Confession is good for lees soul.
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Re: We're having a heat wave
Reply #77 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:50pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:49pm:
Thank you for your confession that you are a biased invention.

Confession is good for lees soul.



That was your take on it. Are you resiling?
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Reply #78 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 4:04pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:50pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:49pm:
Thank you for your confession that you are a biased invention.

Confession is good for lees soul.


That was your take on it. Are you resiling?


I'm 'reisling'.
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Reply #79 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 4:14pm
 
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:45pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:36pm:
lee wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:04pm:
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 3:00pm:
The objective of models is to determine ranges of prospective facts if the conditions of the model are repeated in an ecosystem.

Models produce a range of prospective facts. Its more scientific than abject denialism.


And yet they only quote the most scary. They do not admit to doubt. And with the great variety of "parameters" that are input, which is correct?

The models don't do projections, predictions, prognostications. Just what do they do?


That's why people were invented.

I have to highlight to prevent lee going off on a frolic by picking one word and turning it into a plethora of denials, arguments and false facts.


So people were invented to confirm their biases, when reading the tea leaves modelled data output.

It's all part of the uncertainty principle  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #80 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 7:11pm
 
Denizen lee fiddles while WA burns.

Fire seasons are starting earlier and lasting longer as AGW progresses.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-22/four-bushfire-warnings-for-wa-residents-in...

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Residents in Western Australia have been urged to seek safety after the WA Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES) issued four emergency bushfire warnings across the state.

An emergency warning is in place for a fire in the western part of Bindoon, north of Perth, with homes in Gray Road, Hidaway Drive, Lakeside Drive and Great Northern Highway under threat.

Residents in those areas are in danger and need to either leave immediately for a safer place or prepare to defend their home.

DFES said embers were burning ahead of the bushfire and warned residents to close all doors and windows.

It has jumped the Great Northern Highway, parts of which are now closed.

People can evacuate to the Bindoon Town Hall on the Great Northern Highway.

An emergency warning has also been issued for people in the western part of Ellenbrook in the Shire of Swan, where burning embers are causing problems.

The fire was burning in bushland adjacent to Charlottes Vista. Homes there and in Moulton Trail are under threat.

"Burning embers are likely to be blown around your home," a warning said.

Another emergency warning remains in place in the coastal town of Esperance, where residents have again been told to evacuate their homes after a fire — which has burned for days — broke containment lines on its western flank.

Authorities said there was a threat to lives and homes.

The alert level for the fire was upgraded to an emergency warning when the flames moved fast in a north-westerly direction.

The fire is threatening homes in Myrup, to the north-east of Esperance.

The Department of Fire and Emergency Services (DFES) has advised residents leaving their homes to take Quarry Road north, and turn left at Myrup Road then north along Esperance-Coolgardie Highway.

An emergency warning has also been issued for the Julimar State Forest in the Shire of Toodyay.

Residents near the forest are warned that burning embers are likely to be blown around homes.

Those deciding to stay and defend are being advised not to rely on mains water pressure, as it could be affected.

The threat had eased on Saturday but hot, windy conditions have fanned flames.

There have been several devastating fires in the region since last weekend.

One of the blazes claimed the life of four people, including local farmer Kym Curnow and three European nationals.
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Reply #81 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 7:50pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2015 at 7:11pm:
Denizen lee fiddles while WA burns.

Fire seasons are starting earlier and lasting longer as AGW progresses.



And this, of course, has nothing to do with lack of controlled burns etc.

The article you quote says nothing about "starting earlier and lasting longer as AGW progresses". Perhaps you can give a link to that.
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Reply #82 - Nov 22nd, 2015 at 8:34pm
 
From Department of Fire & Emergency Services (DFES).

'Typically, Western Australia’s bushfire season runs between November and April in the South West, while the northern bushfire season runs from June to late October. '
http://www.dfes.wa.gov.au/safetyinformation/fire/bushfire/Pages/default.aspx
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Reply #83 - Nov 25th, 2015 at 10:17pm
 
The temperature's rising ... lee and Maria blame it on the Bosanova.

South Australia's on fire.

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This spring is likely to see broken records for heat in many parts of Australia.

Perth, the largest city and capital of Western Australia, is on course to see one of its hottest Novembers and its hottest spring on record. Since the start of the month, all but eight days have exceeded the November average of 26.5C. Only three days in the last fortnight posted a maximum below 30C.

Residents flocked to the beach this weekend, as the city baked in its hottest weekend since February.

Hot and dry winds swung around from a southerly to a northeasterly on Friday, interrupted only by the afternoon sea breeze. This had the effect of bringing the searingly hot air down from the Kimberley Plateau. As a result, on Saturday, the temperature soared to 35 degrees Celsius, then to 36C on Sunday .

This is hot enough you might think, but on the previous Saturday, the thermometer touched 39.2C, then showed a relatively cooler 33C on Sunday.

Diagonally opposite, on the other side of the continent, Tropical Queensland has been even hotter. Parts of the state have come within two degrees of breaking November heat records, with some places recording temperatures up to 10 degrees above average.

The highest temperatures to be felt on Saturday were in the north-west of Queensland. Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Rick Threlfall said, "Urandangi got up to 43 degrees, Monument got up to 42 degrees, but a lot of places over the interior were over 40 degrees." He continued, "We're still a couple of degrees short of hitting November records, but certainly well above average by about 10 degrees in some places."

In fact, every Australian state has flirted with or beaten heat records this month, a phenomenon possibly attributable to the current strong El Nino event. Under such conditions, there is rather less cloud cover, on average, over Australia, so more of the sun's rays hit the ground. The famous red dirt absorbs the sun's radiation very readily, and from then on, the breeze spreads the heat all around.

- See more at: http://mwcnews.net/news/asia-pacfic/55678-australias-continent-wide-heatwave.htm...
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Reply #84 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:47am
 
South Australia's on fire.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/11/25/australian-wildfire-kills-at-least-2-and...

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ADELAIDE, Australia –  Out-of-control wildfires have caused at least two deaths, 13 injuries and have destroyed at least 16 homes near the southern Australian city of Adelaide, officials said on Thursday.

Two bodies were recovered on Wednesday and there was an unconfirmed report that a person fleeing the blaze died in a car wreck in the razed rural area, South Australia state Premier Jay Weatherill said.

The confirmed casualties were a 56-year-old woman and a 69-year-old man. Their names were not released.

At least two firefighters were among the 13 people hospitalized by the blaze that had scorched 85,000 hectares (210,000 acres) of farm and woodland and threatened several towns near Adelaide, the state's capital and largest city, Weatherill said.

Five of those injured were in critical or serious conditions with burns.

"Their condition is being closely monitored, but we do hold grave concerns," Weatherill told reporters.
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Reply #85 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:51am
 
When I was a kid in Sydney, near the coast, the heat & humidity was so bad we had to brave the funnel web spiders and sleep out on the lawn. And that was a double brick house.

Never had to do that since.
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Reply #86 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:57am
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:51am:
When I was a kid in Sydney, near the coast, the heat & humidity was so bad we had to brave the funnel web spiders and sleep out on the lawn. And that was a double brick house.

Never had to do that since.


Congratulations you have evolved and can now afford to sleep inside the house.
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Reply #87 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 12:24pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 10:51am:
When I was a kid in Sydney, near the coast, the heat & humidity was so bad we had to brave the funnel web spiders and sleep out on the lawn. And that was a double brick house.

Never had to do that since.

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Reply #88 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 1:12pm
 
The temperature's rising. "She certainly can can can"

The flames are leaping off the chart.

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http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-planet-is-about-to-pass-a-ominous-warming-...

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The global surface temperature in 2015 is likely to be the warmest on record and reach the significant milestone of 1° Celsius above the pre-industrial era.

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO), in a provisional statement on the status of global climate, says this is due to a combination of a strong El Niño and human-induced global warming.

The WMO has prepared the analysis ahead of the COP21, the UN climate change conference in Paris which begins on Monday to decide a global emissions reduction goal.

Australia last month had its warmest October on record and a heatwave early in the month set new records for early season warmth.

And a powerful El Niño event is gaining strength, influencing weather patterns in many parts of the world and is partly to blame for the exceptionally warm October in Australia. The impact will continue to be felt in 2016.

Globally the years 2011-2015 have been the warmest five on record, with many extreme weather events, especially heatwaves, influenced by climate change.

“The state of the global climate in 2015 will make history as for a number of reasons,” says WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud.

“Levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere reached new highs and in the Northern hemisphere spring 2015, the three-month global average concentration of CO2 crossed the 400 parts per million barrier for the first time.

“2015 is likely to be the hottest year on record, with ocean surface temperatures at the highest level since measurements began. It is probable that the 1°C Celsius threshold will be crossed. This is all bad news for the planet.”
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Reply #89 - Nov 26th, 2015 at 4:04pm
 
Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 26th, 2015 at 1:12pm:
The temperature's rising. "She certainly can can can"



Yep, good graph. See how the slope (rate of change), since 1997,  is not as much as pre-1997?

Remember the Karl et al 2015 adjustments to NASA/NOOA/GISS datasets?
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