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Turnbull hands over our autonomy to the U.N.
Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 7:54am

Increasingly the spectre of Malcolm Turnbull, who in regard to International Affairs on Terrorism, has our new national leader, flummoxed and worryingly ill prepared to handle Australia's affairs on the world stage.

Already he has done back flips on our position and even at one stage wanted to 'negotiate' with terrorists.

Turnbull is a genuinely 'nice bloke' but he will go along with the U.N. line on practically everything. This constitutes a great danger towards Australia because the U.N. view Australia and the perfect place to dump any amount of refugees.

This Country will be unrecogniseable if Turnbull blindly lets the U.N., call the tune.

History has shown what a newted bloody useless body the U.N. is, they couldn't run a corner store let alone the World.

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Reply #1 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:04am

red baron wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 7:54am:

Increasingly the spectre of Malcolm Turnbull, who in regard to International Affairs on Terrorism, has our new national leader, flummoxed and worryingly ill prepared to handle Australia's affairs on the world stage.

Already he has done back flips on our position and even at one stage wanted to 'negotiate' with terrorists.

Turnbull is a genuinely 'nice bloke' but he will go along with the U.N. line on practically everything. This constitutes a great danger towards Australia because the U.N. view Australia and the perfect place to dump any amount of refugees.

This Country will be unrecogniseable if Turnbull blindly lets the U.N., call the tune.

History has shown what a newted bloody useless body the U.N. is, they couldn't run a corner store let alone the World.

What is your proposition? Shall we begin unilateral action?

I mean, seriously, how can it be that conservatives are so naive as to think that talking big results in doing big? Do you honestly believe that idiot Tony would do anything different to what Turnbull will do? Both will take their marching orders from the US. The rest is for domestic consumption only. Just like loser Tony never shirt fronted anyone, the same as idiot Tony would have never committed to unilateral action, despite all his "tough" talk. He was a wanker loser. That's about it.

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Re: Turnbull hands over our autonomy to the U.N.
Reply #2 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:06am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:04am:

red baron wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 7:54am:

Increasingly the spectre of Malcolm Turnbull, who in regard to International Affairs on Terrorism, has our new national leader, flummoxed and worryingly ill prepared to handle Australia's affairs on the world stage.

Already he has done back flips on our position and even at one stage wanted to 'negotiate' with terrorists.

Turnbull is a genuinely 'nice bloke' but he will go along with the U.N. line on practically everything. This constitutes a great danger towards Australia because the U.N. view Australia and the perfect place to dump any amount of refugees.

This Country will be unrecogniseable if Turnbull blindly lets the U.N., call the tune.

History has shown what a newted bloody useless body the U.N. is, they couldn't run a corner store let alone the World.

What is your proposition? Shall we begin unilateral action?

I mean, seriously, how can it be that conservatives are so naive as to think that talking big results in doing big? Do you honestly believe that idiot Tony would do anything different to what Turnbull will do? Both will take their marching orders from the US. The rest is for domestic consumption only. Just like loser Tony never shirt fronted anyone, the same as idiot Tony would have never committed to unilateral action, despite all his "tough" talk. He was a person loser. That's about it.

Nailed it.

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Re: Turnbull hands over our autonomy to the U.N.
Reply #3 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:08am

red baron wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 7:54am:

Increasingly the spectre of Malcolm Turnbull, who in regard to International Affairs on Terrorism, has our new national leader, flummoxed and worryingly ill prepared to handle Australia's affairs on the world stage.

Already he has done back flips on our position and even at one stage wanted to 'negotiate' with terrorists.

Turnbull is a genuinely 'nice bloke' but he will go along with the U.N. line on practically everything. This constitutes a great danger towards Australia because the U.N. view Australia and the perfect place to dump any amount of refugees.

This Country will be unrecogniseable if Turnbull blindly lets the U.N., call the tune.

History has shown what a newted bloody useless body the U.N. is, they couldn't run a corner store let alone the World.

the POLLS ARE HAPPY....rb... thats what counts..

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Reply #4 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:09am

cods wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:08am:

red baron wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 7:54am:

Increasingly the spectre of Malcolm Turnbull, who in regard to International Affairs on Terrorism, has our new national leader, flummoxed and worryingly ill prepared to handle Australia's affairs on the world stage.

Already he has done back flips on our position and even at one stage wanted to 'negotiate' with terrorists.

Turnbull is a genuinely 'nice bloke' but he will go along with the U.N. line on practically everything. This constitutes a great danger towards Australia because the U.N. view Australia and the perfect place to dump any amount of refugees.

This Country will be unrecogniseable if Turnbull blindly lets the U.N., call the tune.

History has shown what a newted bloody useless body the U.N. is, they couldn't run a corner store let alone the World.

the POLLS ARE HAPPY....rb... thats what counts..

What do you propose he should do then, cods? And please, be concise, it's too early for cods speak.

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Re: Turnbull hands over our autonomy to the U.N.
Reply #5 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:13am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:09am:

cods wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:08am:

red baron wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 7:54am:

Increasingly the spectre of Malcolm Turnbull, who in regard to International Affairs on Terrorism, has our new national leader, flummoxed and worryingly ill prepared to handle Australia's affairs on the world stage.

Already he has done back flips on our position and even at one stage wanted to 'negotiate' with terrorists.

Turnbull is a genuinely 'nice bloke' but he will go along with the U.N. line on practically everything. This constitutes a great danger towards Australia because the U.N. view Australia and the perfect place to dump any amount of refugees.

This Country will be unrecogniseable if Turnbull blindly lets the U.N., call the tune.

History has shown what a newted bloody useless body the U.N. is, they couldn't run a corner store let alone the World.

the POLLS ARE HAPPY....rb... thats what counts..

What do you propose he should do then, cods? And please, be concise, it's too early for cods speak.

Be a good little fawning sycophant to merica like all those conservative PMs before him.

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Reply #7 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 9:29am

What should we do? For a start we need to take a deep bloody breath before we bring in 12,000 Syrians (2,000 more than the U.S. for heaven's sake!).

I'll say it right now, we are importing our future problems..

I have stated earlier that it is is not only likely it is inevitable that sleeper terrorist cells will be among the imports

How many, as many as they like. All this bullsh.t talk about how well they are vetted. They will vet Jack sh.t because The refugees will have sketchy background and paperwork. I.S.I.S. will ensure that their 'sleeper cells' will have the 'right' documents and they will slip through unheeded.

Just remember 5 - 10 years down the track when the sleeper cells are activated - where it all began. With Malcolm Turnbull bringing them on in - enmasse!

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Reply #9 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 9:39am

Here's the outcome you want in Syria and Syria

(1) Defeat ISIS in Syria - this means to take military control from them
(2) Defeat Assad - this means to remove him from power
(3) Instal another President in Syria
(4) Control this new president so that ISIS does not come back
(5) Then we move to Iraq and get rid of ISIS there

You solve Steps 1 and 5 with ground troops and more bombing

You solve Steps 2, 3 and 4 with politics and negotiation

We need to identify a candidate for Step 3 before we send in ground troops. WHY?

Because this new president will need to command the rebel group that will be part the ground troops

The problem is - Assad's killed all the candidates during last 3 years

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Turnbull hands over our autonomy to the U.N. Reply #11 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 9:46am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 9:44am: (3) Instal another President in Syria John Kerry would be a good choice, yes? Got to be Muslim
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Re: Turnbull hands over our autonomy to the U.N.
Reply #12 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 10:32am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 9:39am:

Here's the outcome you want in Syria and Syria

(1) Defeat ISIS in Syria - this means to take military control from them
(2) Defeat Assad - this means to remove him from power
(3) Instal another President in Syria
(4) Control this new president so that ISIS does not come back
(5) Then we move to Iraq and get rid of ISIS there

You solve Steps 1 and 5 with ground troops and more bombing

You solve Steps 2, 3 and 4 with politics and negotiation

We need to identify a candidate for Step 3 before we send in ground troops. WHY?

Because this new president will need to command the rebel group that will be part the ground troops

The problem is - Assad's killed all the candidates during last 3 years

With Assad being an ally of russia how do you propose this happens?
Annnnnnddd go!

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Reply #13 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 10:34am

red baron wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 9:29am:

What should we do? For a start we need to take a deep bloody breath before we bring in 12,000 Syrians (2,000 more than the U.S. for heaven's sake!).

I'll say it right now, we are importing our future problems..

I have stated earlier that it is is not only likely it is inevitable that sleeper terrorist cells will be among the imports

How many, as many as they like. All this bullsh.t talk about how well they are vetted. They will vet Jack sh.t because The refugees will have sketchy background and paperwork. I.S.I.S. will ensure that their 'sleeper cells' will have the 'right' documents and they will slip through unheeded.

Just remember 5 - 10 years down the track when the sleeper cells are activated - where it all began. With Malcolm Turnbull bringing them on in - enmasse!

? Tony brought them in.

I blame the Brits for all our problems anyway. They brought in convicts and no wonder our crime rates are so high.

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Reply #14 - Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 10:38am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 22^nd, 2015 at 8:44am:

Bishop was dead wrong when she tried to rebuke Abbott on his comments that ground troops are needed to beat IS. She wrongly claimed Abbott wanted us to go it alone but he never even came close to saying that.

So abbott is going to ensure america put ground troops there for more than just training? And how would he have achieved that?

Once again, you show us thst conservatives loonies will believe anything. Fact is if tony wants grou d troops then the only way he can make that happen is to send in australian troops, given thats the only power he had. And if he had done that, we would have been the only country with boots on ground. Hence, unilateral action.

If thats not what the idiot meant then it means he was once again lying.

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