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Reply #30 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 11:36pm

Swagman wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 12:14pm:

landlords are required to maintain the house in the condition that it was when she first moved in, not make improvements. If it was inappropriate for her she should have stopped to consider that before accepting the property.

If I were her property manager I'd suggest to her and the owner that they install the air con, in exchange for a $20 week rent increase. I'd bet that it would suddenly not be a priority anymore.

That's not very socialist of you Johnny? Have you finally seen the light?

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no one on this forum that i can think of is socialist Swag ... thats just something you like to yell out when you have nothing else.

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Reply #31 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 12:40am

An interesting conundrum. I think there needs to be a minimum set expectation for house upkeep. While I don't agree with air conditioning being a set minimum, at the very least I think part of the rental agreement should be a disclosure of what maintenance was performed on the property within the last 24 months. I've had cases where problems with a property were hidden. For instance, a case of a property I rented in the summer time that ended up having a big draft problem in the winter, with mould constantly being an issue. The landlord advised they are aware of the issue, and as a result advised they had a dehumidifier in the property that I was to use; somehow it was expected I had to increase my electricity bill to keep their property well maintained because fixing the actual structure was deemed too expensive by the landlord. Obviously i argued against this being my obligation and subsequently moved out. Likewise, another property had internal
Leaking problems that they were aware of but hid from me during inspections and lease agreement.

By providing a list of maintenance performed, or full disclosure, at least it gives the rentee the ability to make an appropriate decision that they are then bound by.

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Reply #32 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 5:59am

A lot of people are renters for a lot of different reasons.

Yep, it is high time that the "industry" attracted some regulation, that way the C$$ts currently calling the shots can fully experience what it is like to have other C**ts calling the shots...

It's only fair.

I am sure there are landlords who are fair, reasonably and provide good quality accommodation. However, they're not the reason there is a need for regulation, they will also be the knock on victims of the arsehole factor who have brought the rental sector into the spot light.

As a social organism we only really perceive the need for regulation when those who self regulate are seen to be inept, dishonest and disreputable. So, a minimum standard needs to be set.

The market is on the brink of demanding it, and we should all listen to the market.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Renters Stuck In Power Hungry Houses Reply #33 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:18am So caveat emptor is out the door is it? Everybody is to have his hand held and his bum wiped? A slippery slope where renting is at the top of the slide and down the bottom some Commissar moves 20 families into your house and moves you out. You'd enjoy that would you?
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Reply #34 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 7:23am

John Smith wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 11:36pm:

Swagman wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 10:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 12:14pm:

landlords are required to maintain the house in the condition that it was when she first moved in, not make improvements. If it was inappropriate for her she should have stopped to consider that before accepting the property.

If I were her property manager I'd suggest to her and the owner that they install the air con, in exchange for a $20 week rent increase. I'd bet that it would suddenly not be a priority anymore.

That's not very socialist of you Johnny? Have you finally seen the light?

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Cheesy

no one on this forum that i can think of is socialist Swag ... thats just something you like to yell out when you have nothing else.

.........true.....quasi-socialists then

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Renters Stuck In Power Hungry Houses Reply #35 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:23am There are many who think socialism though and would have it if they could
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Renters Stuck In Power Hungry Houses Reply #36 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 9:10am bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:23am: There are many who think socialism though and would have it if they could ...until they get sent to the Gulags for nonconforming
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Reply #37 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:17am

Swagman wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 9:10am:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:23am:

There are many who think socialism though and would have it if they could

...until they get sent to the Gulags for nonconforming Grin

And once again you show your complete ignorance of socialism.

Like the terminally-stupid American Right, you wrongly equate socialism with communism.

They are NOT the same thing, and they never were.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17984 Gender:	Re: Renters Stuck In Power Hungry Houses Reply #38 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:23am Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:17am: Like the terminally-stupid American Right, you wrongly equate socialism with communism. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. (USSR) - communist National Socialism Germany (aka Nazi's) - other
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Reply #39 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:35am

lee wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:23am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:17am:

Like the terminally-stupid American Right, you wrongly equate socialism with communism.

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. (USSR) - communist

National Socialism Germany (aka Nazi's) - other

I was just waiting for some fool to pull that out of their ass.

Neither were socialist, apart from in name.

Next you'll be telling me that the PRK is actually a republic and is actually for the people.

You are as ignorant as most rightards on the matter.

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Reply #40 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 11:35am

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

I was just waiting for some fool to pull that out of their ass.

Neither were socialist, apart from in name.

Next you'll be telling me that the PRK is actually a republic and is actually for the people.

You are as ignorant as most rightards on the matter.

So a socialist party in Australia would remain true to its roots? No just in name only?

You have the most incredible faith in politicians.

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Reply #41 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 12:01pm

lee wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 11:35am:

Kat wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 10:35am:

I was just waiting for some fool to pull that out of their ass.

Neither were socialist, apart from in name.

Next you'll be telling me that the PRK is actually a republic and is actually for the people.

You are as ignorant as most rightards on the matter.

So a socialist party in Australia would remain true to its roots? No just in name only?

You have the most incredible faith in politicians.

All he has is the most incredible stupidity.

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21st Century Dialup Network Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 399 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Renters Stuck In Power Hungry Houses Reply #42 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 12:52pm Being a landlord is not an act of charity as many seem to think: "I'm providing shelter to the poor etc etc!" Those "poor" renters pay landlords for the use of their home and as such the landlord should keep the home in livable condition.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75114 Gender:	Re: Renters Stuck In Power Hungry Houses Reply #43 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 12:56pm bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2015 at 8:23am: There are many who think socialism though and would have it if they could there's nothing wrong with it if used appropriately
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