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Re: Couldn't run a piss up in a brewery
Reply #30 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 8:33am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 2:51pm:
Kat wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 1:16pm:
Kytro wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 7:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 7:20am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 5:56am:
The value of a secret ballot - giving people who are bullied into towing the party line the opportunity to vote honestly has a real value.

Maybe all political votes should be done anonymously.


Be careful what you wish for. Don't assume that all the surprise results will go your way. If there had been a secret ballot, do you think the carbon tax would have ever gotten up? Perhaps not. After all, it only needed ONE labor Mp to recognise what an electoral disaster it would be.


While unpopular at the time, it was hardly the Government's biggest issue.
The perception of incompetence
is far more damaging.



And that's all it ever WAS, a perception.

It had NO basis in reality.


Yeah of course...  the fact that virtually every commentator noted that Labor screwed up virtually every policy was nonsense right? Even Labor MPs bemoaned the level of incompetence,

But we have seen Kat that you dont ever really think through your remarks. They are as predictable as they are worthless.


I wouldn't agree this assessment. People have a tendency to give government too much credit or blame. Labor was unremarkable at the time. The fact is that people saw the infighting as instability in terms of effective governance, but I tend to be of the view that for the most part government is actually run by the bureaucrats.

Reform is where politicians come in. If there was no reform, there would be little need for politicians.
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Re: Couldn't run a piss up in a brewery
Reply #31 - Nov 24th, 2015 at 10:49am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 2:51pm:
Kat wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 1:16pm:
Kytro wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 7:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 7:20am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 23rd, 2015 at 5:56am:
The value of a secret ballot - giving people who are bullied into towing the party line the opportunity to vote honestly has a real value.

Maybe all political votes should be done anonymously.


Be careful what you wish for. Don't assume that all the surprise results will go your way. If there had been a secret ballot, do you think the carbon tax would have ever gotten up? Perhaps not. After all, it only needed ONE labor Mp to recognise what an electoral disaster it would be.


While unpopular at the time, it was hardly the Government's biggest issue.
The perception of incompetence
is far more damaging.



And that's all it ever WAS, a perception.

It had NO basis in reality.


Yeah of course...  the fact that virtually every commentator noted that Labor screwed up virtually every policy was nonsense right? Even Labor MPs bemoaned the level of incompetence,

But we have seen Kat that you dont ever really think through your remarks. They are as predictable as they are worthless.


Yeah of course...  the fact that virtually every commentator noted that Labor screwed up virtually every policy was nonsense right?

Translation : The biased News ltd was critical of everything Labor did in the term.

Even Labor MPs bemoaned the level of incompetence

Translation: Mandatory addition of something made up that sounds good.
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