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Yah, An ALP MP We Can Cheer
Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:10pm

Labor MP Melissa Parke raises constitutional concerns over new laws set to strip citizenship from terror suspects

A federal Labor politician has broken ranks with her colleagues in opposing the government's draft laws to strip citizenship off terror suspects.

Melissa Parke voiced concerns over the constitutionality of the proposed changes when the bill returned to the House of Representatives on Monday.

Labor supported the Australian Citizenship Amendment (Allegiance to Australia) Bill after almost 30 amendments, but Ms Parke said a "deep level of concern" remained.

"In my view the bill remains contrary to the rule of law and the principles of natural justice and as such should not be passed by parliament," Ms Parke said.

Opposition immigration spokesman Richard Marles raised concerns over constitutionality earlier this month when he said: "the question of constitutionality lies with the Government and ultimately it will be for the government to bear responsibility for that".

Greens MP Adam Bandt also spoke in opposition of the "Tony Abbott-era" bill, saying it would do nothing to make Australia safer.

Mr Bandt said the proposed laws would effectively divide the country into "two classes of citizens".

"It will trash one of the most fundamental principles of civil law and the English constitutional system that we have taken for granted for many years," he said.

"That is if you are born in a country you are a citizen of the country and it is not the parliament's prerogative to take it away."

Numerous Labor and Liberal MPs spoke in favour of the bill on Monday, with Karen Andrews referencing Australia's "relaxed patriotism".

The bill — which is likely to pass the lower house — would see dual nationals stripped of their Australian citizenship if they commit acts of terrorism.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-23/labor-mp-concerned-over-laws-to-strip-terr...

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Reply #1 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:15pm

do you have dual citizenship greeny???>..

why do the greens protect those who support something like ISIS.....

what is it that only those who fight against Australia will be affected...yet you cover for them???

WHY??? what is it that you like and admire so much you want them to have the protection of Australia a country they HATE...

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Yah, An ALP MP We Can Cheer Reply #2 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist. Can you understand the difference cods.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Yah, An ALP MP We Can Cheer Reply #3 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:31pm cods wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:15pm: do you have dual citizenship greeny???>.. Well a good number of Labor AND Greens Politicians do... Including Peter Whish-Wilson..
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Yah, An ALP MP We Can Cheer Reply #4 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm ____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm: Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist. Can you understand the difference cods. Is there actually a difference???
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Yah, An ALP MP We Can Cheer Reply #5 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:39pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm: ____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm: Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist. Can you understand the difference cods. Is there actually a difference??? You are a terrorist. Your citizenship is now stripped. So are you Gizmo, are you a terrorist?
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Reply #6 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:39pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm:

Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist.

Can you understand the difference cods.

Is there actually a difference???

You are a terrorist.
Your citizenship is now stripped.

So are you Gizmo, are you a terrorist?

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is get rid of dual citizenship and you have no problem. So why not do it?

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Reply #7 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:59pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:39pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm:

Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist.

Can you understand the difference cods.

Is there actually a difference???

You are a terrorist.
Your citizenship is now stripped.

So are you Gizmo, are you a terrorist?

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is get rid of dual citizenship and you have no problem. So why not do it?

Until the next stage of the plan.
Making people stateless.

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Reply #8 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:09pm

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:39pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm:

Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist.

Can you understand the difference cods.

Is there actually a difference???

You are a terrorist.
Your citizenship is now stripped.

So are you Gizmo, are you a terrorist?

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is get rid of dual citizenship and you have no problem. So why not do it?

Until the next stage of the plan.
Making people stateless.

Can't do it. Which is kinda the point. Get rid of your dual citizenship then there is no problem. If you wont, then I suspect your loyalty to the country.

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Reply #9 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:12pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:09pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:39pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm:

Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist.

Can you understand the difference cods.

Is there actually a difference???

You are a terrorist.
Your citizenship is now stripped.

So are you Gizmo, are you a terrorist?

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is get rid of dual citizenship and you have no problem. So why not do it?

Until the next stage of the plan.
Making people stateless.

Can't do it. Which is kinda the point. Get rid of your dual citizenship then there is no problem. If you wont, then I suspect your loyalty to the country.

It can and will be done if the hard right get their longterm plans through.

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Reply #10 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:30pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:09pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:39pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm:

Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist.

Can you understand the difference cods.

Is there actually a difference???

You are a terrorist.
Your citizenship is now stripped.

So are you Gizmo, are you a terrorist?

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is get rid of dual citizenship and you have no problem. So why not do it?

Until the next stage of the plan.
Making people stateless.

Can't do it. Which is kinda the point. Get rid of your dual citizenship then there is no problem. If you wont, then I suspect your loyalty to the country.

Rightards are in NO position to question ANYONE'S loyalty.

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Reply #11 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:40pm

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:09pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:59pm:

mariacostel wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:46pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:39pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:32pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm:

Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist.

Can you understand the difference cods.

Is there actually a difference???

You are a terrorist.
Your citizenship is now stripped.

So are you Gizmo, are you a terrorist?

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is get rid of dual citizenship and you have no problem. So why not do it?

Until the next stage of the plan.
Making people stateless.

Can't do it. Which is kinda the point. Get rid of your dual citizenship then there is no problem. If you wont, then I suspect your loyalty to the country.

Gizmo, of course there is a difference between being accused of being a terrorist and being a terrorist. You or I could be accused any time the government liked, it doesn't make it true.
As for longys comment re duel citizenship and giving it up to show your " true loyalty" last time I saw any figures for people holding duel citizenship the worst offenders were bloody poms too lazy to stand in the non British que at Heathrow, not Pakis.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Yah, An ALP MP We Can Cheer Reply #12 - Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 6:54pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:31pm: cods wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:15pm: do you have dual citizenship greeny???>.. Well a good number of Labor AND Greens Politicians do... Including Peter Whish-Wilson.. Citation needed.
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Reply #14 - Nov 24^th, 2015 at 6:08am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 7:52pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2015 at 5:27pm:

Being a terrorist verses accused of being a terrorist.

Can you understand the difference cods.

The terrorists would kill both

Australian Greens say welcome to both then blame LIBs when one of them kill Australians

You have a 100% record in telling other people what they think and getting it wrong.

You would be a terrific control subject in a Telepathy study.

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