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Reply #135 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:13am
 
Emma wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:05am:
Women are nowhere paid less than the required amount for the exact same job, and nowhere is there any evidence that they are not.


You don't hear the News then? Perhaps you think the stats are skewed to favor the view that women are NOT paid equally with men.?  Stats say otherwise my friend. Guess you don't watch what you don't want to see eh.?


Yes they are skewed.  Under Law no woman can be paid for the exact same job at less than the mandatory rate.

If you can show otherwise - SHOW ME - and we cannot discuss negotiated remuneration.... ONLY where there is an assertion that a woman is paid less than the mandatory level for the job.

Looking at overall figures does not give a true reflection of the realities.
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Reply #136 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:16am
 
This is a thread about domestic violence isn't it? Not all of the ways women have screwed over men.
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Reply #137 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:16am
 
In the 2011 Census, the figures were that men worked 42 + hours a week generally compared to women working 34+ - how does the equate to any 'wage gap'? Oddly enough - a calculation  of those hours at the same rate of pay gives precisely the difference between men and women's EARNINGS - so nowhere are women missing out.

You are paid what you EARN for the hours you WORK in any given field - and in any given field NOBODY is paid less than the mandatory minimum.

Are you saying I should be paid $1500 a day consulting for driving a club bus, rather than the $27 an hour casual rate I do get?

OK.....................
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Reply #138 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:19am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:16am:
This is a thread about domestic violence isn't it? Not all of the ways women have screwed over men.


I didn't say women had screwed over men -I'm simply trying to introduce some reason and reality into the discussion about legal rights and the causes of relationship violence.

I avoid the term 'domestic violence' since it has been perverted to mean 'man v woman ONLY' violence by any extension of any feeling by a woman regardless of facts.
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Reply #139 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:20am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:19am:
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:16am:
This is a thread about domestic violence isn't it? Not all of the ways women have screwed over men.


I didn't say women had screwed over men -I'm simply trying to introduce some reason and reality into the discussion about legal rights and the causes of relationship violence.

I avoid the term 'domestic violence' since it has been perverted to mean 'man v woman ONLY' violence by any extension of any feeling by a woman regardless of facts.



While ignoring that one woman dies every week from domestic violence.

One woman every week. Beaten to death.
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Reply #140 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:23am
 
More than 50 women this year so far.
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Reply #141 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27am
 
Nobody ignores that - but we also never hear of the men killed - EVER.  Let alone the men thrown out of their homes and subjected to violence by the courts and others, including the curtailment of their opportunity to earn a decent living.

I've long said - and will continue to do so -that the current approach of blaming men regardless of facts is at the root of the escalating violence and alienation taking place between men and women - and is the direct cause of many of these killings - the ones that take place for revenge or retaliation.

In MOST cases of killings - I refer you back to the link I posted before - most such take place in drunken or drug rages, which are in most case incidents of reciprocal violence - for which women are at least as responsible as men are.

How many times must you be told that women INITIATE more incidents of violence - but suffer greater injury therefrom.

Until we, as a society, remove from women the 'right' to assault men - there can be no diminution in violence between women and men, and no reduction in the proportionately greater physical harm women receive as a result.

Am I the only one addressing the real issues of relationship violence? I think so.

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Reply #142 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:30am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Nobody ignores that - but we also never hear of the men killed - EVER.  Let alone the men thrown out of their homes and subjected to violence by the courts and others, including the curtailment of their opportunity to earn a decent living.

I've long said - and will continue to do so -that the current approach of blaming men regardless of facts is at the root of the escalating violence and alienation taking place between men and women - and is the direct cause of many of these killings - the ones that take place for revenge or retaliation.

In MOST cases of killings - I refer you back to the link I posted before - most such take place in drunken or drug rages, which are in most case incidents of reciprocal violence - for which women are at least as responsible as men are.

How many times must you be told that women INITIATE more incidents of violence - but suffer greater injury therefrom.

Until we, as a society, remove from women the 'right' to assault men - there can be no diminution in violence between women and men, and no reduction in the proportionately greater physical harm women receive as a result.

Am I the only one addressing the real issues of relationship violence? I think so.




How many men are being beaten to death every week Grap?
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Reply #143 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:31am
 
Sadly, that has been 2 women per week so far this year. And that is AUSTRALIA.

I hate to even think about places like PNG, or Pakistan.

[]I avoid the term 'domestic violence' since it has been perverted to mean 'man v woman ONLY' violence by any extension of any feeling by a woman regardless of facts. [/quote]

OH  YOU avoid the term DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?

Too hard for you to grasp the reality eh?.  You cannot conceive how that comment makes me feel. No you have no clue at all.
Keep on waving the flag of male superiority.  It will not be a good outcome. Sad
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Reply #144 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:31am
 
I've also posted for you the simple reality that - in terms of FAMILY violence - women far outweigh men in the killings and abuse of children, especially when it comes to natural mothers and natural fathers.

Who speaks for these children while the heroic women gladiators continue to assault men as their chosen path to power and control over society?

I Do!

And that is why I will continue to oppose these heroic women gladiators at every turn.
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Reply #145 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:33am
 
Emma wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:31am:
Sadly, that has been 2 women per week so far this year. And that is AUSTRALIA.

I hate to even think about places like PNG, or Pakistan.

mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:20am:
I avoid the term 'domestic violence' since it has been perverted to mean 'man v woman ONLY' violence by any extension of any feeling by a woman regardless of facts.


OH  YOU avoid the term DOMESTIC VIOLENCE?

Too hard for you to grasp the reality eh?.  You cannot conceive how that comment makes me feel. No you have no clue at all.
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Mothra didn't say that - I did.

The correct term is FAMILY violence, since 'domestic violence' has been perverted to the feminist cause...

Women kill their kids at a massively higher rate than men kill their kids - yet the focus is on men being violent....

HTS is that 'male superiority'?
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Reply #146 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:31am:
I've also posted for you the simple reality that - in terms of FAMILY violence - women far outweigh men in the killings and abuse of children, especially when it comes to natural mothers and natural fathers.

Who speaks for these children while the heroic women gladiators continue to assault men as their chosen path to power and control over society?

I Do!

And that is why I will continue to oppose these heroic women gladiators at every turn.



I assume,  nay I hope, you are receiving pyschiatric care Grappler. You really need it. I'm serious. Your phobias and fears make you a very dangerous person for any woman to be around. I gather you are a hermit....I hope so.
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Reply #147 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:39am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:30am:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27am:
Nobody ignores that - but we also never hear of the men killed - EVER.  Let alone the men thrown out of their homes and subjected to violence by the courts and others, including the curtailment of their opportunity to earn a decent living.

I've long said - and will continue to do so -that the current approach of blaming men regardless of facts is at the root of the escalating violence and alienation taking place between men and women - and is the direct cause of many of these killings - the ones that take place for revenge or retaliation.

In MOST cases of killings - I refer you back to the link I posted before - most such take place in drunken or drug rages, which are in most case incidents of reciprocal violence - for which women are at least as responsible as men are.

How many times must you be told that women INITIATE more incidents of violence - but suffer greater injury therefrom.

Until we, as a society, remove from women the 'right' to assault men - there can be no diminution in violence between women and men, and no reduction in the proportionately greater physical harm women receive as a result.

Am I the only one addressing the real issues of relationship violence? I think so.




How many men are being beaten to death every week Grap?


There was a post some time back with a reference - but I don't recall the figures and I don't keep the links etc.  It was somewhere (from memory) around 35-40% men killed in some way in 'dv' incidents. 

We're not allowed to say it - but most of those were in 'certain' groups in society.

And, when it comes to child killings and abuse, let us be sure to differentiate between Natural Parents and.... 'new lions in the pride'..... many child killings are by 'new lions' and often the natural mother - many - many more than by natural fathers.

We need to look at all the issues here - not just the approved line force fed to us, and one of those real issues is the breakdown of social structures in the pursuit of feminist hegemony in the West.
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Reply #148 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:41am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:31am:
I've also posted for you the simple reality that - in terms of FAMILY violence - women far outweigh men in the killings and abuse of children, especially when it comes to natural mothers and natural fathers.

Who speaks for these children while the heroic women gladiators continue to assault men as their chosen path to power and control over society?

I Do!

And that is why I will continue to oppose these heroic women gladiators at every turn.



No. You;ve never been able to substantiate that. The best you could come up with is a couple of recent grisly cases.

Play fair Grap.
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Reply #149 - Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:43am
 
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/these-new-stats-reveal-the-horrifying-scale-of...

We need more accurate and definitive information than is handed out in these emotive releases - and until 'domestic violence' fully incorporates more than 'man on woman' - the real issues will not be addressed.

The term 'domestic violence' has become so perverted into meaning 'man v woman ONLY' that the real issues are being swept under the carpet.

That is why Rose Batty initially referred to Family Violence, but was shouted down and forced into discussion of the accepted version called 'domestic violence'.  The whole thing is politicised for a reason, that reason being to beat men into submission.

Not working, is it?
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