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Reply #210 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:44pm
 
... wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I'm sure if I spat in your face, I might expect a violent reaction.


Not everybody's family is like yours, Honk.

Some people know how to restrain themselves.

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Reply #211 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:02pm
 
Another strand descended into personal vitriol and meaningless assumptions about the 'other' side... I suspect that most of us would have a great deal of empathy - but that doesn't mean we should crucify someone because someone feels like doing it....

Those who know me - know me as a gentle and empathetic person with an enormous depth of caring..... but I will oppose violence as a means to resolve violence with all my might and main....

That... after all.. is what a man does.......

The single greatest cause of violence in this society - regardless of what a professor of Peace Studies tried to put across to me when I showed him the path of light - is the use of violence to control violence....

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Reply #212 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
... wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I'm sure if I spat in your face, I might expect a violent reaction.


Not everybody's family is like yours, Honk.

Some people know how to restrain themselves.



I allow any fool one free shot of stupidity - coming back for a second will get you hurt badly....

Now that's restraint.....
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Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated
Reply #213 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:21pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Another strand descended into personal vitriol and meaningless assumptions about the 'other' side... I suspect that most of us would have a great deal of empathy - but that doesn't mean we should crucify someone because someone feels like doing it....

Those who know me - know me as a gentle and empathetic person with an enormous depth of caring..... but I will oppose violence as a means to resolve violence with all my might and main....

That... after all.. is what a man does.......

The single greatest cause of violence in this society - regardless of what a professor of Peace Studies tried to put across to me when I showed him the path of light - is the use of violence to control violence....

It Will Never Happen!




thats all well and good.. but what do you think about the ,judge.....was he right ???...do you think his attitude to violence will shake up all those people who think its ok to pull someones hair until they are on the ground where they can really get stuck into them....what the judge calls a kerfuffle that she basically caused.....

do you think this judge is sending a good message????

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Reply #214 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:22pm
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
... wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I'm sure if I spat in your face, I might expect a violent reaction.


Not everybody's family is like yours, Honk.

Some people know how to restrain themselves.



I allow any fool one free shot of stupidity - coming back for a second will get you hurt badly....

Now that's restraint.....




Restraint is walking away.
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Reply #215 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:25pm
 
“Do not hurt where holding is enough;
Do not wound where hurting is enough;
Do not maim where wounding is enough;
and kill not where maiming is enough;
The greatest warrior is he who does not need to kill”


~"The Oath of Peace" from The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.
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Reply #216 - Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:57pm
 
mothra wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:22pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
... wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I'm sure if I spat in your face, I might expect a violent reaction.


Not everybody's family is like yours, Honk.

Some people know how to restrain themselves.



I allow any fool one free shot of stupidity - coming back for a second will get you hurt badly....

Now that's restraint.....




Restraint is walking away
.

Touche'
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Reply #217 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:33am
 
mothra wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:22pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
... wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I'm sure if I spat in your face, I might expect a violent reaction.


Not everybody's family is like yours, Honk.

Some people know how to restrain themselves.



I allow any fool one free shot of stupidity - coming back for a second will get you hurt badly....

Now that's restraint.....




Restraint is walking away.


That's what I said - one guy had two free shots at me... on the third I spread him across a table in an RSL, and put my fist in his face and said "don't do it again!" - he tried when I was walking away with two security people in the club - and was close to death, but the security pulled me out of the fight... when I had him lined up for a broken elbow and a broken knee...... let alone a chop to the throat....

That makes four time he attacked me with no reason - all over a woman who fancied me but who he thought he owned - now at what time should I accept some twit that I don't even know and have had no argument with ever... should be entitled to assault me?

At some time you have to stop them cold.... he was lucky..... as a civilised man I allowed the club security to handle it... but at the point of the fourth unwarranted assault... he was a dead man walking.....

It's called discipline....... when you can kill a person with a single blow... you need to be disciplined.. as I taught my children.

Now - I never assaulted that guy - he assaulted me four times.... yet it was only on the last - when he sought to attack me from behind - that he was in actual danger.

I think that shows very clearly the kind of man I am....
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Reply #218 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:34am
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:57pm:
mothra wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:22pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
... wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I'm sure if I spat in your face, I might expect a violent reaction.


Not everybody's family is like yours, Honk.

Some people know how to restrain themselves.



I allow any fool one free shot of stupidity - coming back for a second will get you hurt badly....

Now that's restraint.....




Restraint is walking away
.

Touche'   



Read on, Agnes - and enter the real world....
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Reply #219 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:40am
 
Seriously - some of you need to really get a look at the real world of stupid people who want to fight others - often that kind of idiot is called 'a police officer'  or a 'security guy', or just some thug in a club.

Goddamned amateurs all of them.... and their approach shows that to the max.

Now, when I did security for the British Ambassador to Fiji during the coup............ I was never even in close, apart from one time when he pulled up while swimming the pool and had this "I know you" moment while I was sitting reading a book....... that's not how I work..... I don't do 'close security'... I do the rest.

Well - I did.... but I'm retired.....
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Reply #220 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:43am
 
I walked away THREE times - and the assailant was only in danger when he attempted a coward attack from behind.....

Get with it, girls.... it's never as straight as your theory classes tell you it is...
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Reply #221 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:49am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:33am:
mothra wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:22pm:
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 11:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
... wrote on Jan 12th, 2016 at 3:21pm:
I'm sure if I spat in your face, I might expect a violent reaction.


Not everybody's family is like yours, Honk.

Some people know how to restrain themselves.



I allow any fool one free shot of stupidity - coming back for a second will get you hurt badly....

Now that's restraint.....




Restraint is walking away.


That's what I said - one guy had two free shots at me... on the third I spread him across a table in an RSL, and put my fist in his face and said "don't do it again!" - he tried when I was walking away with two security people in the club - and was close to death, but the security pulled me out of the fight... when I had him lined up for a broken elbow and a broken knee...... let alone a chop to the throat....

That makes four time he attacked me with no reason - all over a woman who fancied me but who he thought he owned - now at what time should I accept some twit that I don't even know and have had no argument with ever... should be entitled to assault me?

At some time you have to stop them cold.... he was lucky..... as a civilised man I allowed the club security to handle it... but at the point of the fourth unwarranted assault... he was a dead man walking.....

It's called discipline....... when you can kill a person with a single blow... you need to be disciplined.. as I taught my children.

Now - I never assaulted that guy - he assaulted me four times.... yet it was only on the last - when he sought to attack me from behind - that he was in actual danger.

I think that shows very clearly the kind of man I am....




What has 2 neanderthals brawling in a pub got to do with domestic violence?
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Reply #222 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:50am
 
Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:43am:
I walked away THREE times - and the assailant was only in danger when he attempted a coward attack from behind.....

Get with it, girls.... it's never as straight as your theory classes tell you it is...



Rack off with your theory classes bullshit. You're not the only one with life experience.

How unbelievably patronising.
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Reply #223 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:56am
 
You're a little too quick off the mark on branding for my liking mothra.
You saw fit to call my 22 and 24 year old cousins as "thugs" based on a photo of them stood by a flag.

Now you run with Neanderthals?
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Reply #224 - Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:58am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 13th, 2016 at 1:56am:
You're a little too quick off the mark on branding for my liking mothra.
You saw fit to call my 22 and 24 year old cousins as "thugs" based on a photo of them stood by a flag.

Now you run with Neanderthals?



It wasn't based on them standing in a photo. It was based off of their description of Palestinian people.

And folks brawling in pubs are neanderthals.
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