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Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated
Reply #75 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:47pm

mothra wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

As for women wanting equality but not wanting to be hit, you need to think about the playing field. Men are, usually, considerably bigger and stronger than women. That is not to say a woman cant deliver a good hit but the chances are if a man then hits a woman in return, he is likely to do much more damage than she did. That is why it is not ok to hit women. It's just not good to wallop someone smaller than you.

Then it should be about big person walloping a smaller person and not about men hitting women because there are some women who are larger than men

As I said - I don't agree with "you can't hit a woman under any condition"

I question "reasonable force" for retaliation

Bottom line is - if the woman did not hit the man then there is no issue about retaliation with reasonable force

DON'T HIT!!! Women or men!!

Scenario 1
If a man hit a woman first - it's assault against the man. She's got to gauge whether to retaliate. He's already broken the law by hitting you so what are the chances he'll hit you more if you retaliate

Scenario 2
If a woman hit a man - it's assault against the woman. He's got to gauge whether he wants to retaliate. If he retaliate then there are some rules around that if he's bigger than her. But then again she might pull a gun on him

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38859 Gender:	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #76 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:50pm For Lisa Jones:
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Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated
Reply #77 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:54pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

As for women wanting equality but not wanting to be hit, you need to think about the playing field. Men are, usually, considerably bigger and stronger than women. That is not to say a woman cant deliver a good hit but the chances are if a man then hits a woman in return, he is likely to do much more damage than she did. That is why it is not ok to hit women. It's just not good to wallop someone smaller than you.

Then it should be about big person walloping a smaller person and not about men hitting women because there are some women who are larger than men

As I said - I don't agree with "you can't hit a woman under any condition"

I question "reasonable force" for retaliation

Bottom line is - if the woman did not hit the man then there is no issue about retaliation with reasonable force

DON'T HIT!!! Women or men!!

Scenario 1
If a man hit a woman first - it's assault against the man. She's got to gauge whether to retaliate. He's already broken the law by hitting you so what are the chances he'll hit you more if you retaliate

Scenario 2
If a woman hit a man - it's assault against the woman. He's got to gauge whether he wants to retaliate. If he retaliate then there are some rules around that if he's bigger than her. But then again she might pull a gun on him

God you complicate matters sometimes.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #78 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:55pm Aussie wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:50pm: For Lisa Jones: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02049/tissue_2049564i.jpg Thank you. I've completely run out here thanks to my freaking flu
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #79 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:58pm Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:54pm: God you complicate matters sometimes. Hello LJ I do don't I
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Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated
Reply #80 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:02pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:54pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:47pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:

As for women wanting equality but not wanting to be hit, you need to think about the playing field. Men are, usually, considerably bigger and stronger than women. That is not to say a woman cant deliver a good hit but the chances are if a man then hits a woman in return, he is likely to do much more damage than she did. That is why it is not ok to hit women. It's just not good to wallop someone smaller than you.

Then it should be about big person walloping a smaller person and not about men hitting women because there are some women who are larger than men

As I said - I don't agree with "you can't hit a woman under any condition"

I question "reasonable force" for retaliation

Bottom line is - if the woman did not hit the man then there is no issue about retaliation with reasonable force

DON'T HIT!!! Women or men!!

Scenario 1
If a man hit a woman first - it's assault against the man. She's got to gauge whether to retaliate. He's already broken the law by hitting you so what are the chances he'll hit you more if you retaliate

Scenario 2
If a woman hit a man - it's assault against the woman. He's got to gauge whether he wants to retaliate. If he retaliate then there are some rules around that if he's bigger than her. But then again she might pull a gun on him

God you complicate matters sometimes.

Is this complicated?

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #81 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:12pm Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:58pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 3:54pm: God you complicate matters sometimes. Hello LJ I do don't I You're an intelligent guy who thinks too hard lol. Hope you're keeping well.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38859 Gender:	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #82 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:19pm Why didn't this bloke just deck her? (And there are a zillion similar things on YouTube.) The days of the polite passive female have long gone. There are bitches out there who are quite happy to have physical confrontation....and they marry poor bastards who probably get done for 'domestic violence.'
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #83 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:19pm Aussie: check your link in Reply # 80. It's about name calling people you meet in the street. And that has S F A to do with this topic or Maqqa or me for that matter.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38859 Gender:	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #84 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:22pm This pair will just terrific Wives and Mothers, make:
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Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated
Reply #85 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:26pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Aussie: check your link in Reply # 80.

It's about name calling people you meet in the street.

And that has S F A to do with this topic or Maqqa or me for that matter. Shocked

Oh....you reckon that woman leaves her 'attitude' just on the streets and only just for 'niggaaaars?'

You probably do, and..... leave Mr Maqqa out of this. Your stupid, attention seeking, vapid, vacuous and misleading posts are my target, not Mr Maqqa. He cannot save you from what you post, even if he wanted to.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #86 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:33pm Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:12pm: You're an intelligent guy who thinks too hard lol. Hope you're keeping well. Cheers and Congratulations on your nuptial
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated Reply #87 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:37pm Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:33pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:12pm: You're an intelligent guy who thinks too hard lol. Hope you're keeping well. Cheers and Congratulations on your nuptials Ha! I've had 2 kids since then. We remembered how to do it lol. Are YOU married yet?
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Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated
Reply #88 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:43pm

Aussie wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:26pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:19pm:

Aussie: check your link in Reply # 80.

It's about name calling people you meet in the street.

And that has S F A to do with this topic or Maqqa or me for that matter. Shocked

Oh....you reckon that woman leaves her 'attitude' just on the streets and only just for 'niggaaaars?'

You probably do, and..... leave Mr Maqqa out of this. Your stupid, attention seeking, vapid, vacuous and misleading posts are my target, not Mr Maqqa. He cannot save you from what you post, even if he wanted to.

By all means keep spewing off topic nonsense and keep posting irrelevant YouTube clips.

We wouldn't want you to be inconsistent.

But for everyone else....except for Aussie of course who clearly wants to "target" (his word) certain people in here...and has an insatiable urge to derail a DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TOPIC YET AGAIN.....let's move on.

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Re: Domestic violence - it's complicated
Reply #89 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:50pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:37pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:33pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 4:12pm:

You're an intelligent guy who thinks too hard lol.

Hope you're keeping well.

Cheers and Congratulations on your nuptials