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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim Reply #30 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:14pm Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act
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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #31 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:16pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:40pm:

We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel

If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime.

They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country

In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty

Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country?

So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!!

You've been misinformed.

Asylum seekers aren't illegals.

"Asylum" seekers may not be illegal

but the method by which they seek asylum definitely is

Furthermore in most cases they have done everything possible to prevent it being discovered they are not genuine....

they are economic migrants arriving by illegal means

if as many say ... "there are more illegals here that have come by plane"

then why do we have boat people who have flown halfway around the globe to Indonesia & paid people smugglers at considerable expense....

then hop on a leaky boat in dangerous seas for the shortest leg of their journey?

It's because the premise of desperate asylum seeker is just a lie.

I'm sure people like you could be commercially fished....

because you rise on the flimsiest of bait.

An interesting opinion.

Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion.

The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees.

You have opinions - I have facts.

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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #32 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:35am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 10:02pm:

If Australia is so cruel then they wouldn't want to come here

Australia is cruel, but not as bad as the places they have come from.

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how do you KNOW THAT GWEG??..

a LUCKY guess maybe...

we know its a while since you were in SYRIA especially one of the bigger camps.....

and we know none of those one boats being returned to Indonesia are from Syria.... Roll Eyes

... well let me say thats a lucky guess on my part... but the people smugglers dont seem to be sending them our way right now.....

so where are those on the boats from??????....

you WHO know everything... Roll Eyes

how do you KNOW they are all living in danger..

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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #33 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:16pm:

n interesting opinion.

Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion.

The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees.

You have opinions - I have fact

fantastic.... I have just asked that v ery thing...whew...

now for the FACTS...

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 138739 Gender:	Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim Reply #34 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:23pm cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:19pm: how do you KNOW they are all living in danger.. Fleeing persecution, dear. You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you?
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim Reply #35 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:23pm: cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:19pm: how do you KNOW they are all living in danger.. Fleeing persecution, dear. You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you? How do you know?
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Reply #36 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:44pm

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

how do you KNOW they are all living in danger..

Fleeing persecution, dear.

You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you?

How do you know?

The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are granted genuine refugee status.

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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #37 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:44pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:19pm:

how do you KNOW they are all living in danger..

Fleeing persecution, dear.

You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you?

How do you know?

The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are granted genuine refugee status.

how do you know dear???

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim Reply #38 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:23pm: cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:19pm: how do you KNOW they are all living in danger.. Fleeing persecution, dear. You do understand what an asylum seeker is, don't you? but how do YOU know??? monis was fleeing the LAW.. just saying.
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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #39 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:40pm:

We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel

If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime.

They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country

In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty

Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country?

So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!!

You've been misinformed.

Asylum seekers aren't illegals.

"Asylum" seekers may not be illegal

but the method by which they seek asylum definitely is

Furthermore in most cases they have done everything possible to prevent it being discovered they are not genuine....

they are economic migrants arriving by illegal means

if as many say ... "there are more illegals here that have come by plane"

then why do we have boat people who have flown halfway around the globe to Indonesia & paid people smugglers at considerable expense....

then hop on a leaky boat in dangerous seas for the shortest leg of their journey?

It's because the premise of desperate asylum seeker is just a lie.

I'm sure people like you could be commercially fished....

because you rise on the flimsiest of bait.

An interesting opinion.

Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion.

The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees.

You have opinions - I have facts.

The very "fact" that you believe that

proves that that is just a popular opinion.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74932 Gender:	Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim Reply #40 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:49pm cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: monis was fleeing the LAW.. fleeing the law is not the same as fleeing persecution
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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #41 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:27pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:16pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 1:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 27^th, 2015 at 8:24am:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:40pm:

We hear leftards telling everyone how Australia is SOOOOOOO cruel

If we are so cruel then these ILLEGALS are welcome to withdraw their asylum claim anytime.

They can apply to New Zealand if they want or to any other country

In fact if they have FACTS backing the cruelty claim they can claim asylum to other countries based on this cruelty

Has anyone seen any ILLEGALS withdrawing their application and go back to their country?

So if you ain't withdrawing your application then SHUT THE F#CK UP and wait until we process you!!!

You've been misinformed.

Asylum seekers aren't illegals.

"Asylum" seekers may not be illegal

but the method by which they seek asylum definitely is

Furthermore in most cases they have done everything possible to prevent it being discovered they are not genuine....

they are economic migrants arriving by illegal means

if as many say ... "there are more illegals here that have come by plane"

then why do we have boat people who have flown halfway around the globe to Indonesia & paid people smugglers at considerable expense....

then hop on a leaky boat in dangerous seas for the shortest leg of their journey?

It's because the premise of desperate asylum seeker is just a lie.

I'm sure people like you could be commercially fished....

because you rise on the flimsiest of bait.

An interesting opinion.

Sadly, though, that's all it is: an opinion.

The facts are, the majority of asylum seekers who come by boat are found to be genuine refugees.

You have opinions - I have facts.

The very "fact" that you believe that

proves that that is just a popular opinion.

No, it's a fact.

Ask the government - they'll tell you.

The majority of asylum seekers who come by boat, are granted genuine refugee status. Indisputable fact.

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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #42 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 4:29pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 3:49pm:

cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:50pm:

monis was fleeing the LAW..

fleeing the law is not the same as fleeing persecution Cheesy

cods doesn't understand the difference between two standard drinks, and twelve standard drinks.

Don't expect her to understand the difference between the law and persecution.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58927 Here Gender:	Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim Reply #43 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:24pm Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:14pm: Gnads Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal.
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Re: If Australia is cruel then cancel asylum claim
Reply #44 - Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:43pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:24pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:14pm:

Gnads

Pecker still does not understand non-befoulment clause of the UN Refugee Convention and how that related to the Australian Migration Act

You even bringing up the term considering the Liberals disgraceful performance in this area a huge own goal.

In what way?

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