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Question: How many insane righties on this forum?

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Very good article on the closed minds of the Left (Read 12243 times)
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #120 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:37am
 
Let's study this a bit closer.

Poll.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #121 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


I think that the Media should be too but then we have NEWS Ltd openly undermining our democracy with no controls of any sort in place.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #122 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:30am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 1:37am:
Let's study this a bit closer.

Poll.


Difficult poll I am having trouble deciding as I don't keep a running total and prefer to see the best in people.

I suspect that it is more than the first group but hope it isn't more than the second and I would like to believe that some of them are at least partially sane even though it isn't obviously shown to be the case.

I will have to think about it.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #123 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 6:13am
 
How many insane righties? Wink Wink.

at my local pub, i would almost be looked upon as a communist leftard apologist. the locals live in a thought bubble echo chamber that is straight out of "one nation".

when my daughters friends from uni come over (several of whom are in young labor), i bear witness to  boys and girls (around 20 to 22) who are emotionally unstable. they vary from crying tears about assylum seekers they have never met to crying tears about transgenders they have never met (but who they think get a hard time) to getting all Raah Raah about the next "get-up" rally.

i personally think that echo chambers are bad for anyone.
they lead to a forced feedback loop and increasing polarisation and loss of rapport.

the greenie hating farmers thru to the church hating lefties.

intelligent people are 2 things

1 economically conservative  (close to the swag position)
2 socially liberal (couldnt care about issues like gay marriage or abortion).

they are socially liberal because they are too busy taking advantage of their economic conservatism.

the lefties who live in australia in 2015 and arent doing well ,
who think times are tough
who think the average joe is being ripped off by the system are close to insane.

to not recognise all the gifts of free enterprise, to not recognise all the opportunities of free eneterprise. to miss out on it all , due to some warped belief system that the "Man" is keeping them ground down.
I'm telling you, thats just insane  Wink Wink
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #124 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:34am
 
Oh having empathy and criticism of capital and status quo power realations is being close minded according to a sociopath like yourself.

The absolute lack of self awareness among the right is crazy.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #125 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:44am
 
aquascoot wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 6:13am:
How many insane righties? Wink Wink.

at my local pub, i would almost be looked upon as a communist leftard apologist. the locals live in a thought bubble echo chamber that is straight out of "one nation".

when my daughters friends from uni come over (several of whom are in young labor), i bear witness to  boys and girls (around 20 to 22) who are emotionally unstable. they vary from crying tears about assylum seekers they have never met to crying tears about transgenders they have never met (but who they think get a hard time) to getting all Raah Raah about the next "get-up" rally.

i personally think that echo chambers are bad for anyone.
they lead to a forced feedback loop and increasing polarisation and loss of rapport.

the greenie hating farmers thru to the church hating lefties.

intelligent people are 2 things

1 economically conservative  (close to the swag position)
2 socially liberal (couldnt care about issues like gay marriage or abortion).

they are socially liberal because they are too busy taking advantage of their economic conservatism.

the lefties who live in australia in 2015 and arent doing well ,
who think times are tough
who think the average joe is being ripped off by the system are close to insane.

to not recognise all the gifts of free enterprise, to not recognise all the opportunities of free eneterprise. to miss out on it all , due to some warped belief system that the "Man" is keeping them ground down.
I'm telling you, thats just insane  Wink Wink

Uhmmmmm, you have no idea what social liberalism is.  They don't care about gay marriage in the sense that they don't care who sleeps with who because it's not government business, and hence there should be no laws attributed with it.  But it's not that they "don't care about gay marriage" as you put it.  Those are confused people who pretend they want limited government intervention, but are such religious nut jobs that the government must get involved in upholding their fictional book.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #126 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:02am
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 6:43pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


Yes but that probably isn't the current reality a few educators have obvious leanings one way or the other, most students ignore them.



Thats more than a bit naive. IN tertiary education the left-wing influence is extreme. Pretending otherwise doesnt change that.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #127 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:04am
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:07pm:
Holy poo the right wing crybaby victim complex in this thread. I've never seen such hyperbolic slippery slopes in my life. University students giving a voice to minorities and fighting bigotry is now comparable to the khmer rouge?  Anti-science nonsense like climate change denial should given equal space as real science?  What next anti vaxx pseudoscience should be allowed uncritically in hospitals?

Holy poo the righties on this forum are literally insane. Also for all the complaints about "safe spaces" isn't it funny its only now an issue that minorities are critiquing structureal racism and sexism. Never was a problem when every thing was a safe space for white people and every thing was whitewashed.



Ah... the communist speaks... and is ignored because of that fact.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #128 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:05am
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


I think that the Media should be too but then we have NEWS Ltd openly undermining our democracy with no controls of any sort in place.



No controls??  none at all?

The paranoia runs deep in this one.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #129 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:41am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:02am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 6:43pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


Yes but that probably isn't the current reality a few educators have obvious leanings one way or the other, most students ignore them.



Thats more than a bit naive. IN tertiary education the left-wing influence is extreme. Pretending otherwise doesnt change that.


I done engineering where there was no influence either way at all.

I knew people in economics and Law and found a strong influence to the right I suspect similar with medical.

The arts are to the left and I imagine some are balanced.

Even in the worst areas the vast majority of educators stay away from politics.

Universities may have changed since I was there due to the difficult time that the Liberals continually give them.

Any Teacher Lecturer or student would be crazy to vote Liberal.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #130 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:05am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


I think that the Media should be too but then we have NEWS Ltd openly undermining our democracy with no controls of any sort in place.



No controls??  none at all?

The paranoia runs deep in this one.


Effectively no controls at all - it isn't paranoia when it is true.

It is a fact that over most of the last 40 years News Ltd have openly supported the Liberals and undermined Labor often dishonestly continually spreading anti Labor propaganda in the community to the extent that it has had a strong impact on a significant number of election results.


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Reply #131 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:59am
 
These are obviously not observations you've made any time recently.  I'd guess you either never observed it yourself but went along with the groupthink, or observed it 20 years ago and closed the topic off in your mind forever.

News.ltd was gunning for abbots head since about a month into the job.  I mentioned before how their agenda is identical to the huffing ton post - go and look at the news.com.au and tell me they're right wing.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #132 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 9:49am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 7:05pm:
Soren wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 6:00pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:40pm:
French flag on its side is the Dutch flag.

Back to your stupid self help books for you, Walter Mitty.

I mean, far out, a Christian school isn’t going to indoctrinate your kids  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Christian schools teach you about Christianity. You do not have to believe it. They DO expect you not to piss on it while on the premises or in he uniform. Is that indoctrination?

Considering that it was Christian orders that set up schools to start with, are you resentful still??




It's not indoctrination. It's respect and that's something severely lacking in the Left.


Respect?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

you have no idea ... how is a nun pulling the hair on a 10 yr old because he didn't go to church on the previous Sunday teaching respect?

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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #133 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 10:11am
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:04am:
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:07pm:
Holy poo the right wing crybaby victim complex in this thread. I've never seen such hyperbolic slippery slopes in my life. University students giving a voice to minorities and fighting bigotry is now comparable to the khmer rouge?  Anti-science nonsense like climate change denial should given equal space as real science?  What next anti vaxx pseudoscience should be allowed uncritically in hospitals?

Holy poo the righties on this forum are literally insane. Also for all the complaints about "safe spaces" isn't it funny its only now an issue that minorities are critiquing structureal racism and sexism. Never was a problem when every thing was a safe space for white people and every thing was whitewashed.



Ah... the communist speaks... and is ignored because of that fact.


No, you'd be ignoring him because he's essentially correct.

And what he said has nothing to do with communism.

But then, if you actually KNEW anything about communism, you'd know that.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #134 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 10:37am
 
... wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:59am:
These are obviously not observations you've made any time recently.  I'd guess you either never observed it yourself but went along with the groupthink, or observed it 20 years ago and closed the topic off in your mind forever.

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More than 20 years ago in terms of attendance but have to wonder how anyone would expect to remain current.

Certainly nobody posting uninformed opinion here.

I also worked at Sydney uni for a period in a medical science discipline and never heard any lecturer talk on politics at any time with the exception of funding related matters and grant applications when Howard was PM.

I would be surprised to find that half the lecturers were not conservatives.
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