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Very good article on the closed minds of the Left (Read 12165 times)
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #135 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 11:00am
 
Kat wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 10:11am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:04am:
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:07pm:
Holy poo the right wing crybaby victim complex in this thread. I've never seen such hyperbolic slippery slopes in my life. University students giving a voice to minorities and fighting bigotry is now comparable to the khmer rouge?  Anti-science nonsense like climate change denial should given equal space as real science?  What next anti vaxx pseudoscience should be allowed uncritically in hospitals?

Holy poo the righties on this forum are literally insane. Also for all the complaints about "safe spaces" isn't it funny its only now an issue that minorities are critiquing structureal racism and sexism. Never was a problem when every thing was a safe space for white people and every thing was whitewashed.



Ah... the communist speaks... and is ignored because of that fact.


No, you'd be ignoring him because he's essentially correct.

And what he said has nothing to do with communism.

But then, if you actually KNEW anything about communism, you'd know that.



Don't argue Kat ... Maria wrote reports for a living, she knows

and she doesn't speak to poor people. Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #136 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:17pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:05am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


I think that the Media should be too but then we have NEWS Ltd openly undermining our democracy with no controls of any sort in place.



No controls??  none at all?

The paranoia runs deep in this one.


Effectively no controls at all - it isn't paranoia when it is true.

It is a fact that over most of the last 40 years News Ltd have openly supported the Liberals and undermined Labor often dishonestly continually spreading anti Labor propaganda in the community to the extent that it has had a strong impact on a significant number of election results.




So if the DT ran a story saying that Shorten was a pedo rapist and Gillard was a lesbian, do you think there might be some legal problems to flow?

If so, then there ARE controls.

Of course only one word in that first sentence is unjustified!
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #137 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:43pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:17pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:05am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


I think that the Media should be too but then we have NEWS Ltd openly undermining our democracy with no controls of any sort in place.



No controls??  none at all?

The paranoia runs deep in this one.


Effectively no controls at all - it isn't paranoia when it is true.

It is a fact that over most of the last 40 years News Ltd have openly supported the Liberals and undermined Labor often dishonestly continually spreading anti Labor propaganda in the community to the extent that it has had a strong impact on a significant number of election results.




So if the DT ran a story saying that Shorten was a pedo rapist and Gillard was a lesbian, do you think there might be some legal problems to flow?

If so, then there ARE controls.



The only legal problem that MIGHT follow is private litigation. This is not control. It’s not an independent press council with the power to issue penalties, it’s not a criminal law, and there’s no umpire. The DT can say whatever it likes with no state-sanctioned control, just like every other newspaper or website.

TV and radio are different - they come under the Broadcast Act and the Ministry of Communications. Newspapers, and the new medium of websites, are completely unregulated.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #138 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27pm
 
The Right call us closed-minded, when it is our very open-mindedness which they fear.

An open mind is the enemy of, and the antidote to conservatism.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #139 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm
 
Karnal wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:43pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:17pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:05am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


I think that the Media should be too but then we have NEWS Ltd openly undermining our democracy with no controls of any sort in place.



No controls??  none at all?

The paranoia runs deep in this one.


Effectively no controls at all - it isn't paranoia when it is true.

It is a fact that over most of the last 40 years News Ltd have openly supported the Liberals and undermined Labor often dishonestly continually spreading anti Labor propaganda in the community to the extent that it has had a strong impact on a significant number of election results.




So if the DT ran a story saying that Shorten was a pedo rapist and Gillard was a lesbian, do you think there might be some legal problems to flow?

If so, then there ARE controls.



The only legal problem that MIGHT follow is private litigation. This is not control. It’s not an independent press council with the power to issue penalties, it’s not a criminal law, and there’s no umpire. The DT can say whatever it likes with no state-sanctioned control, just like every other newspaper or website.

TV and radio are different - they come under the Broadcast Act and the Ministry of Communications. Newspapers, and the new medium of websites, are completely unregulated.



Tell that to the SMH and their 'hockey for sale' story fiasco.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #140 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:45pm
 
Kat wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27pm:
The Right call us closed-minded, when it is our very open-mindedness which they fear.

An open mind is the enemy of, and the antidote to conservatism.



You are the worst example of a close-minded bigot on here.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #141 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 6:35pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
Kat wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27pm:
The Right call us closed-minded, when it is our very open-mindedness which they fear.

An open mind is the enemy of, and the antidote to conservatism.



You are the worst example of a close-minded bigot on here.


If so I wonder how he could have possibly beaten you..... no you win.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #142 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 6:48pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:
Tell that to the SMH and their 'hockey for sale' story fiasco.


Hockey took them on off his own bat. How do you think News ltd would have gone had people like Rudd taken the same approach with things like the Hogan's heroes front page or the many others.

Didn't Hockey finish out of pocket ?

He was awarded $200K but his legal bill was over a Million. He won only 3 of 15 matters he sued for.

That is 12 of the claims in the story were justified.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #143 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:21pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:
Karnal wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:43pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:17pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:05am:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27am:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 5:30pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:37pm:
... wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:34pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 12:27pm:
Why would you think this with the right in government and in full control of the BullShit lever.



Because

a) "the right" does not = The Liberal party.  They might share a similarity occasionally, but in party politics the left/right dichotomy is wortheless.  A better one is globalists/nationalists - and there ain't no nationalists.

b) Culture is far, far, faaaaar more influential on society than party politics.  You could have Hitler as PM and it wouldn't matter a jot while our kids go through 1-2 decades of schooling by mushroom-haircutted ideologues, and consume hours of unashamedly leftwing popular media each day.




You don't think some read the Telegraph or news LTD.

90% of education is politically neutral as is the general media.


Don't you think education should be 100% politically neutral?


I think that the Media should be too but then we have NEWS Ltd openly undermining our democracy with no controls of any sort in place.



No controls??  none at all?

The paranoia runs deep in this one.


Effectively no controls at all - it isn't paranoia when it is true.

It is a fact that over most of the last 40 years News Ltd have openly supported the Liberals and undermined Labor often dishonestly continually spreading anti Labor propaganda in the community to the extent that it has had a strong impact on a significant number of election results.




So if the DT ran a story saying that Shorten was a pedo rapist and Gillard was a lesbian, do you think there might be some legal problems to flow?

If so, then there ARE controls.



The only legal problem that MIGHT follow is private litigation. This is not control. It’s not an independent press council with the power to issue penalties, it’s not a criminal law, and there’s no umpire. The DT can say whatever it likes with no state-sanctioned control, just like every other newspaper or website.

TV and radio are different - they come under the Broadcast Act and the Ministry of Communications. Newspapers, and the new medium of websites, are completely unregulated.



Tell that to the SMH and their 'hockey for sale' story fiasco.


Oh, I see. You think a politician suing a newspaper is a form of press control.

Jolly good.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #144 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 7:23pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:
Tell that to the SMH and their 'hockey for sale' story fiasco.



Karnal wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 2:43pm:
The only legal problem that MIGHT follow is private litigation.


and you claim others have comprehension problems  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #145 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:26pm
 
The Levesen inquiry helped to establish an independent press council in the UK in the wake of the News of the World fiasco. Prior to that, there was a "watchdog" made up of ex-tabloid editors. This council ignored and covered up the phone-tapping scandal at every turn, along with the London Met. This was an operation that had almost every celebrity, politician and royal in the UK, along with thousands of ordinary citizens, under illegal surveillance. Anything they did - private phone calls, bank transactions, business deals, affairs - could be (and was) published in the Tabloids.

It was in this light, the Finklestein review recommended an independent press council in Australia. News Ltd, of course, didn't like it. Their response was the infamous Tele front-page with Labor ministers photoshopped as communist dictators. Piers, Bolt and Divine took the lead. The shockjocks followed suit.

Newspapers are still among the biggest agenda setters in the nation. The furore of the Tele alone saw the Finklestein report shelved. Just imagine, a newspaper can still say whatever it likes with no censure whatsoever. The press council can only make recommendations, and those recommendations are made by appointees of the newspapers.

Self regulation has given us News Ltd, and there's a reason self regulation (no regulation) still exists: no politician in the English-speaking world wants to go against Rupert Murdoch.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #146 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46pm
 
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
Kat wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27pm:
The Right call us closed-minded, when it is our very open-mindedness which they fear.

An open mind is the enemy of, and the antidote to conservatism.



You are the worst example of a close-minded bigot on here.


BAAAAAAhahahahaha!!!!
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #147 - Nov 28th, 2015 at 11:52pm
 
Kat wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 8:46pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:45pm:
Kat wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:27pm:
The Right call us closed-minded, when it is our very open-mindedness which they fear.

An open mind is the enemy of, and the antidote to conservatism.



You are the worst example of a close-minded bigot on here.


BAAAAAAhahahahaha!!!!




Yes, the deranged laugh of the mentally deficient.
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #148 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 12:02am
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 6:48pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 28th, 2015 at 5:44pm:
Tell that to the SMH and their 'hockey for sale' story fiasco.


Hockey took them on off his own bat. How do you think News ltd would have gone had people like Rudd taken the same approach with things like the Hogan's heroes front page or the many others.

Didn't Hockey finish out of pocket ?

He was awarded $200K but his legal bill was over a Million. He won only 3 of 15 matters he sued for.

That is 12 of the claims in the story were justified.


If they are not for sale, why are not lobbying opportunities apportioned on the basis of merit rather than offering a campaign donation?

Nuff Said...
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Re: Very good article on the closed minds of the Left
Reply #149 - Nov 29th, 2015 at 4:29am
 
Kiron22 wrote on Nov 27th, 2015 at 9:07pm:
Holy poo the right wing crybaby victim complex in this thread. I've never seen such hyperbolic slippery slopes in my life. University students giving a voice to minorities and fighting bigotry is now comparable to the khmer rouge?  Anti-science nonsense like climate change denial should given equal space as real science?  What next anti vaxx pseudoscience should be allowed uncritically in hospitals?

Holy poo the righties on this forum are literally insane. Also for all the complaints about "safe spaces" isn't it funny its only now an issue that minorities are critiquing structureal racism and sexism. Never was a problem when every thing was a safe space for white people and every thing was whitewashed.


What does the political agenda of 'progressives' have to do with higher education? İf they want to play politics then there's The Greens and the Labor party to join. Higher education is far too important to be the play thing of a bunch of rebels with a burning hatred of everything Western. 'Progressives' are only selling students short of a proper education with their one-eyed view of the world.
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