A number of peace activists were executed by bullet to the head at close range. An act of piracy and murder on the high seas far from Israel territorial waters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spain-issues-arrest-warrant-for-israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-over-2010-gaza-flotilla-a6736436.html

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Let us hope justice prevails.

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 10:44am:


Democracies do not occupy, subjugate, oppress and perpetually murder people under their authority.

Settlement is a crime against humanity.

Israel commits murders on a daily basis. Israel is not democratic because it does not grant rights to people under its heel.

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 10:53am:



Sun Tzu,

That is correct.

Democracies do not do those things.

But every democracy does [and must as an existential requirement], have a functioning justice system.

And, at the heart of every functioning democracy, there must be, a functioning justice system.     [question; what is wrong with Australia, 2015 ? !!!!!   ....and the answer is ?]

And ideally, a functioning justice system  [within any functioning democracy] would seek to permanently remove persistent or violent criminals, from among its wider community of law abiding citizens.

Why so ?

1/ To protect the peace and the political stability of that democracy.

2/ So as to seek to protect its law abiding citizens, from 'the tender mercies' of those who have chosen, to behave in a violent and/or a criminal or lawless manner.



As a democracy, Israel does these things, or tries to do these things.

It is not a crime, imo, nor is it an abuse of the 'human rights' of persistent or violent criminals, to permanently remove those persistent or violent criminals, from among the wider community of the citizens, of a democracy.      [...and again, Israel does this, or tries to do this.]

But it is, imo, very much a very foolish and dangerous thing [dangerous to the safety and liberty of all of the law abiding citizens],       ....to allow persistent or violent criminals to live among law abiding citizens !!



You also mentioned the word murder;
It is not 'murder', imo, for a democracy to lawfully kill murderers or wanna-be-murderers [in a lawful effort, to try to protect those citizens who are not murderers, from those who are].

You accuse Israelis of the actions of;

"occupy, subjugate, oppress and perpetually murder people"

occupy - EXACTLY WHAT MOSLEMS PERMIT THEMSELVES TO DO, TO THE LANDS AND PROPERTY OF 'OTHERS' [Koran 21.43-44],
subjugate - EXACTLY WHAT MOSLEMS PERMIT THEMSELVES TO DO, TO 'OTHERS',
oppress - EXACTLY WHAT MOSLEMS PERMIT THEMSELVES TO DO, TO 'OTHERS',
perpetually murder people - EXACTLY WHAT MOSLEMS PERMIT THEMSELVES TO DO, TO 'OTHERS'.

And when i say 'MOSLEMS',      ...i am of course, referring to the 'Palestinians'.


And imo, moslems have the very same qualities as yourself, Sun Tzu;

Moslems are, imo, persons.



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It is a contradiction in purpose, imo, to grant rights and freedoms to those whom we know to be, persistent or violent criminals.

Any viable and functioning and right thinking democracy, will seek, to separate persistent or violent criminals, from the wider community, and strip them naked,    ....of every right and of every freedom.

Why so ?

So that others who may be tempted to take such a path will see, what their reward would be, for lawlessness and violence.



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17
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Moslems are clever people [NOT!].    LOL       [....cunning, and deceitful, is more like it, imo]

e.g.
Moslems in Gaza, chose, to send rockets laden with high explosives into Israeli civilian areas.




Yes.


IMAGE.....




[In the IMAGE,     .....the ultimate 'gift' of ISLAM, to every moslem.    Not, peace!]




The Israelis do not like their civilians being bombarded with rockets laden with high explosives.

The Israelis do not like their civilians being murdered by moslems.

But moslems do,        .....coz moslems are so, so clever!          LOL

Sun Tzu wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 10:53am:




the Arabs have been working in Israel since its inception...the Jews welcomed them..... or is that anti democratic in your book???>...

as far as I know they have never sent a women into the GAZA wearing a bomb so she could detonate it on a bus full of ARABS going about their daily business....

or is that acceptable in your democracy????..

as this is what Israel put up with for years..

ISRAEL as far as I can see   just defends itself...

sure from a nice safe place like Australia we can all condemn because ISRAEL is MIGHTY it is huge compared to the ARabs........

do you feel the same about the terrorists btw....

as they too are miniscule compared to the WEST....

do you think we should leave them alone  because we are bigger????

cods wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:


In fact there was one case of an Israeli shot by his own people because they didn't like the look of him.

Reality: The IDF is too busy killing Palestinians.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:


If IDF killed 82 Palestinians and only 52 were attackers, then 30 Palestinians must have been innocent.

Did the IDF at least apologize for killing 30 innocent Palestinians?

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28^th, 2015 at 5:51pm:


I am sure they did.