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Reply #105 - Dec 1st, 2015 at 7:20am
 
mariacostel wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 7:14am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 1st, 2015 at 6:36am:
John Smith wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 9:12pm:
lee wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 5:47pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 5:25pm:
The resettlement system operates as a discretionary process, based on changing criteria. It’s more like a lottery than it is like a queue.


Where those arriving by boat try to scam the lottery.


more like where those arriving by boat try to buy a systems entry instead of a regular ticket


Correct.

It's just a different kind of ticket.

Still legitimate, though.


Fortunately, better people than you ...




That hurt, Longy.


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Re: Indonesia Protests Boat Push Back
Reply #106 - Jan 1st, 2016 at 8:09am
 
Secret Wars wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 5:11pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 5:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 4:21pm:
mariacostel wrote on Nov 30th, 2015 at 4:03pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:09pm:
Maqqa wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 7:07pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 3:52pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 3:44pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 29th, 2015 at 2:02pm:
The pull factor and the only reason asylum seekers are in Indonesia is the fact Australia is a signatory to the refugee convention....Remove our signature from the convention and the problem would be solved..



I've never understood why the libs, who were so opposed to asylum seekers, didn't do just that! It doesn't make sense that they ignore the convention and still remain party to it.



I'd look really bad if we withdrew form the Convention. We only maintain our signature to save face. We're in the process of trying to schmooze the UN.

The kicker is, we are losing it by degrees for our treatment of asylum seekers.


Never opposed to asylum seekers. Those who patiently wait inline and not complain

Just opposed to country shoppers, queue jumpers, verification avoidance and those who wilfully try to take advantage of Australia's generosity


There is no queue that one joins, in order to become an asylum seeker.

You have been misinformed.


Doesn't it start at Australia's front door ?


No.

There's no front door, or back door.

No queue, and no illegal activity.



Because if 10000 people apply for asylum they are all processed at exactly the same time. The government gets 10,000 staff to interview and review them all on the same day and the 30,000 back office people do the same. Because there is 'no queue'.

Of course there is a queue you daft git.


No.  There's no queue.



There is a queue peccahead.

Every boat person that arrived displaced someone from the quota we had for taking people in overseas camps, those who could afford to pay people smugglers pushed in.




Peccerhead relies on a pointless pedantic diversion.  He equates leaving a beach with processing and process and quotas.   

Hence when he says there is no queue he is talking about there being no queue to access and pay a people smuggler or get yourself a dinghy. 

Most people, apart from obfuscating idiots understand what is meant by the queue and being removed from it.  Hell Gillard made promises that country shoppers would go to the back of the queue.  Rudd made it explicit with his promise that if you arrived as a country shopper you would not even get onto the queue.

And yes, every country shopper displaces someone from the intake quota. 



Another one for the plank thick clowns.

Quote:
As a result, he said, it was taking up to six years to process refugee applicants, which also made it more difficult for overseas applicants who had “waited patiently in line to be assessed” and had far more “urgent and compelling” cases than most applicants in Australia. It was another version of the queue-jumping concept cited from Gough Whitlam onwards.


http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jan/01/cabinet-papers-1990-91-labor-wrestled-with-rising-asylum-claims
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